Welcome! Log In Create A New Profile

Advanced

A lot of assumptions to make us seem brilliant

February 24, 2021 09:01AM
Quote
RockRam
Despite the Watson hype (nothing going to happen this year), the only other QB that was either elite or on the bubble of elite that got scooped up is Stafford.

Now teams are left with sorting through the bargain bin of leftovers. Newton, Bridgewater, Darnold, Trubisky, Brissett, Dalton, etc. They may not be terribly expensive, but all will be thought of as "bridge" or "transition" QBs as these teams keep trying to find the star QB all teams seek. Which means that most of these QBs will be with whatever team signs them 1 or 2 years. Then..... it's on to yet another QB adventure.

The Rams were smart. They decided Goff wasn't the answer (doesn't matter if you agree or not) and so made the move swiftly and decisively. They got, by far, the best QB on the market. And that's not meant to be "relative". The guy is special in his own right. He will improve the team.

When the Panthers move on from Bridgewater, who are they going to move to? Does Dalton make them better? How about Colt McCoy? So they may go with a rookie QB.....probably the 3rd or 4th chosen. Might they get lucky? Sure.

But this is NOT where a team wants to be. Yet that's what happens should you decide to sit on your hands and refuse to pay the market price for an upper tier QB or try to drive a hard bargain.

The Lions had a royal flush and they knew it. So did the Rams. So, they bowed to it and in retrospect, we can see just how QB starved this league is. Big drop off between the top 4 or 5 and the rest.

Even if the Stafford thing doesn't produce the Superbowl we all hope for, from a strategic viewpoint it was the right move.

Fact is wew do not know any of this and we cannot prove until the season plays out. If you like me you also could not have anticipated Rams move this offseason 2 years ago. Your premis is that everyone you listed is a bridge QB. I think after the first couple weeks last year Cam Newton was not seen as a bridge but now he is back in the recycle bin. I certainly would have preferred him over Stafford If Goff was gone last year and both he and Stafford were available.

For all the no look passes that were highlights or the deep balls why is it Stafford has not won more games? Certainly there are some great QBs that were on bad teams that had more success than Stafford. Stafford is tough? Funny the guys winning are pretty tough too. The guys that winning are pretty talented and stay available and yet fewer discussions are about what they played thru. Cam fit that tough category but attrition is his enemy and the same for Matthew Stafford. He has to survive our OL and the NFL season to hopefully come out on top.

If any of those Bridge QBs you list as not being all that good have success you will have to reason why and that is the most interesting part of the whole scenario. McVay got who he wanted which should be a plus but he cannot prove he was right, Stafford will have to prove that. I don't have to be against Matthew Stafford because I can't impact his performance. I can appreciate amazing throws that don't translate to wins but I will want to see wins in the postseason. Goff had plenty amazing throws on his resume and he had the wins to validate him. This is a reboot for Stafford. Look I don't have to agree with the trade but I don't think we have to spin everything to prove our HC and organization's brilliance since there is a price tag that is real in #1 picks to be paid. Based on our record the current facts reflects that we were not brilliant and more than one piece has kept us competitively and its called complimentary football. Our failures were not all on QB (see GB game) and not all on defense (Defense struggled) and our wins not all on any one persons contribution but all under our HC's leadership and just like the QB discarded McVays resume will be up for further review with his new QB of choice.

You cannot validate McVay by saying he was swinging for the fenses when all he needed to do was get on base and move the team forward. If we do not produce a Super bowl appearance this was a swing and a miss, strikeout. Short of Watson, Rodgers or Dak this was not exactly swinging for the fences. I think we reached and probably let the rumors of Stafford to 9ers drive us into the trade. I doubt Seattle believes Stafford would make them better but they certainly know that Goff has had their number.

I don't know how we will spin this if this does not yield a SB. Let's hope we do not have to but way to early to pat ourselves on the back.



Los Angeles Rams

Rap on.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

RockRam859February 22, 2021 10:58AM

  Re: Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

dzrams233February 22, 2021 11:36AM

  Agreed!

RockRam158February 22, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: Agreed!

dzrams114February 22, 2021 12:45PM

  Re: Agreed!

oldschoolramfan59February 23, 2021 04:53AM

  Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

Saguaro103February 23, 2021 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

zn65February 23, 2021 06:44AM

  a thought on yer post, Sag...btw good to read ya again!...

SunTzu_vs_Camus55February 23, 2021 08:15AM

  I think this is a good point

zn44February 23, 2021 10:39AM

  Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Saguaro52February 23, 2021 12:27PM

  for the record

zn41February 23, 2021 02:05PM

  Re: for the record

dzrams35February 23, 2021 02:22PM

  Re: for the record

zn39February 23, 2021 02:42PM

  Re: for the record

dzrams29February 23, 2021 02:45PM

  agreed, zn...

SunTzu_vs_Camus30February 24, 2021 01:01AM

  Re: Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Rampage2K-39February 23, 2021 06:16PM

  yep, I agree with that....

SunTzu_vs_Camus30February 24, 2021 12:50AM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

Rampage2K-30February 24, 2021 07:31AM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

Rams4327February 24, 2021 07:50AM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

Rampage2K-28February 24, 2021 09:14AM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

Rams4325February 24, 2021 01:31PM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

Rampage2K-30February 24, 2021 01:58PM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

dzrams22February 24, 2021 03:00PM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

Rams4321February 24, 2021 03:31PM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

zn22February 24, 2021 04:17PM

  Know what might be interesting?

Rams4323February 24, 2021 05:14PM

  Re: Know what might be interesting?

zn26February 24, 2021 06:02PM

  Re: Looking at this from another angle ...

AlbaNY_Ram22February 26, 2021 03:44AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

dzrams40February 23, 2021 02:42PM

  Lotta good points there, something I disagree with tho...

Saguaro41February 24, 2021 09:39AM

  Re: Fair point....nm

dzrams19February 24, 2021 09:44AM

  Re: Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

zn115February 22, 2021 12:07PM

  Re: Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

dzrams72February 22, 2021 12:37PM

  Re: Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

zn57February 22, 2021 12:51PM

  Re: Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

dzrams51February 22, 2021 01:06PM

  I did the math myself

zn75February 22, 2021 01:17PM

  Re: I did the math myself

dzrams1774February 22, 2021 01:31PM

  Question

DaJudge59February 22, 2021 02:34PM

  Re: Question

dzrams44February 22, 2021 03:07PM

  Re: Question

zn39February 22, 2021 07:09PM

  Re: Question

dzrams37February 22, 2021 07:31PM

  Re: Question

Leoram37February 23, 2021 02:30AM

  Re: Question

zn40February 23, 2021 04:18AM

  Re: Question

dzrams26February 23, 2021 08:12PM

  Cowboys about to find out if they don't sign Dak

BumRap28February 24, 2021 09:15AM

  Re: Cowboys about to find out if they don't sign Dak

dzrams22February 24, 2021 09:27AM

  Re: I did the math myself

zn56February 22, 2021 02:48PM

  Re: I did the math myself

dzrams41February 22, 2021 03:11PM

  Re: I did the math myself

zn31February 22, 2021 03:58PM

  Re: I did the math myself

dzrams35February 22, 2021 06:24PM

  Re: I did the math myself

zn35February 22, 2021 06:37PM

  Re: I did the math myself

dzrams34February 22, 2021 07:20PM

  Re: I did the math myself

zn25February 22, 2021 07:23PM

  You're absolutely right.

Ram_Ruler60February 22, 2021 01:23PM

  Re: Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

Rams4348February 22, 2021 03:11PM

  Interesting Premise... I Agree

LoboRam20February 23, 2021 06:28PM

  Good posts Rock and Dz

Coy Bacon84February 22, 2021 05:23PM

  Re: Good posts Rock and Dz

zn58February 22, 2021 05:40PM

  Re: Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

zn47February 22, 2021 06:57PM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

dzrams69February 23, 2021 08:05PM

  Wow. That's some amazing research you did.

RockRam33February 24, 2021 01:58AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

AlbaNY_Ram29February 24, 2021 03:21AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

Leoram32February 24, 2021 04:11AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

zn41February 24, 2021 07:14AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

dzrams26February 24, 2021 09:06AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

zn20February 24, 2021 10:04AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

dzrams22February 24, 2021 10:25AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

zn20February 24, 2021 10:39AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

dzrams20February 24, 2021 11:38AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

zn19February 24, 2021 11:55AM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

dzrams21February 24, 2021 12:12PM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

zn26February 24, 2021 12:27PM

  There are several things about McVay that I ‘know’ to be true...

Rams4360February 24, 2021 07:44AM

  Re: There are several things about McVay that I ‘know’ to be true...

zn37February 24, 2021 08:08AM

  A lot of assumptions to make us seem brilliant

BumRap43February 24, 2021 09:01AM