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Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

February 23, 2021 06:44AM
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Saguaro
The saying is "The perfect is the enemy of the good".

And what it expresses is that the pursuit of a perfect which may never be obtained can result in the discarding or the wasting of the good.

You turned that on it's head.

Which may be apropos to the situation. Have the Rams paid a big price trying to replace the good with the perfect?

What I question at this point is whether the Rams gave up a ton of draft capital to make a move that will be in essence cosmetic.

That is to say, analysts/fans may be able to point to better statistics from Matt, or say "wow, he just made a play that Goff never made!".

But in the meta sense, will there be more WINS? And to the real goal, more playoff wins, all the way to the top.

The key premise of this whole move is that the Rams good record with Goff at QB was in spite of Goff, and that the Lions bad record with Stafford at QB was not his fault.

Did Matt Stafford really have nothing to do with his 0 for 3 playoff record? Nothing he could have done better?

In 2011, he threw for 380 yards and three touchdowns in a wildcard loss to Brees’ Saints, but also forced two fourth-quarter interceptions that ended the game.

In 2014, he threw for 323 yards and 1 touchdown in a wildcard loss to the Cowboys, but also lost 2 fumbles in the final 3 minutes. (turnovers, anyone?)

In 2016, he threw for only 205 yards in a loss to the Seahawks.

Here's the link to the 2018 article where I found that stuff: Stafford legacy

Sometimes, the perfect that is "the enemy of the good" is actually not all that perfect.

Interesting and welcome perspective.

Time will tell on more wins, etc.

I personally like Stafford and look forward to seeing him play. Playoff wins would be nice but I am never of the "one player away" mindset--too much else has to go right for that ever to be true.

BUT as a Rams fan who is part historian, I do notice that to justify the trade, many people are painting a much darker picture of Goff than I think makes any practical real sense.

Holmes in Detroit took Goff over Carolina's 8th pick and he was with the Rams for all 5 of Goff's years.

My take on the trade is that if the coach and qb are in disconnect, odds are it's the qb who leaves. Now longterm, will the coach be seen as a teambuilding genius or an impatient perfectionist? We'll see. I do notice that a popular head coach gets kind of protected from any valid scrutiny. If you want to cause a pile-on around here, question something about McVay's coaching or leadership. I don;t think that that kind of protectiveness gets along well with a more questioning style of realism.

Anyway, I think Stafford is a good acquisition but you raise fair points.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/23/2021 06:46AM by zn.
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  Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

RockRam859February 22, 2021 10:58AM

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dzrams233February 22, 2021 11:36AM

  Agreed!

RockRam158February 22, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: Agreed!

dzrams114February 22, 2021 12:45PM

  Re: Agreed!

oldschoolramfan58February 23, 2021 04:53AM

  Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

Saguaro103February 23, 2021 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

zn64February 23, 2021 06:44AM

  a thought on yer post, Sag...btw good to read ya again!...

SunTzu_vs_Camus55February 23, 2021 08:15AM

  I think this is a good point

zn43February 23, 2021 10:39AM

  Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Saguaro52February 23, 2021 12:27PM

  for the record

zn41February 23, 2021 02:05PM

  Re: for the record

dzrams34February 23, 2021 02:22PM

  Re: for the record

zn38February 23, 2021 02:42PM

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dzrams28February 23, 2021 02:45PM

  agreed, zn...

SunTzu_vs_Camus30February 24, 2021 01:01AM

  Re: Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Rampage2K-39February 23, 2021 06:16PM

  yep, I agree with that....

SunTzu_vs_Camus29February 24, 2021 12:50AM

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Rampage2K-30February 24, 2021 07:31AM

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Rams4327February 24, 2021 07:50AM

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Rams4324February 24, 2021 01:31PM

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Rampage2K-30February 24, 2021 01:58PM

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dzrams21February 24, 2021 03:00PM

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Rams4320February 24, 2021 03:31PM

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zn21February 24, 2021 04:17PM

  Know what might be interesting?

Rams4322February 24, 2021 05:14PM

  Re: Know what might be interesting?

zn25February 24, 2021 06:02PM

  Re: Looking at this from another angle ...

AlbaNY_Ram22February 26, 2021 03:44AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

dzrams40February 23, 2021 02:42PM

  Lotta good points there, something I disagree with tho...

Saguaro40February 24, 2021 09:39AM

  Re: Fair point....nm

dzrams18February 24, 2021 09:44AM

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zn115February 22, 2021 12:07PM

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dzrams72February 22, 2021 12:37PM

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zn57February 22, 2021 12:51PM

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dzrams51February 22, 2021 01:06PM

  I did the math myself

zn75February 22, 2021 01:17PM

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dzrams1774February 22, 2021 01:31PM

  Question

DaJudge59February 22, 2021 02:34PM

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dzrams44February 22, 2021 03:07PM

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zn39February 22, 2021 07:09PM

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dzrams37February 22, 2021 07:31PM

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Leoram37February 23, 2021 02:30AM

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dzrams26February 23, 2021 08:12PM

  Cowboys about to find out if they don't sign Dak

BumRap28February 24, 2021 09:15AM

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dzrams21February 24, 2021 09:27AM

  Re: I did the math myself

zn56February 22, 2021 02:48PM

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dzrams41February 22, 2021 03:11PM

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zn31February 22, 2021 03:58PM

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dzrams35February 22, 2021 06:24PM

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zn35February 22, 2021 06:37PM

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dzrams34February 22, 2021 07:20PM

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zn25February 22, 2021 07:23PM

  You're absolutely right.

Ram_Ruler60February 22, 2021 01:23PM

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Rams4348February 22, 2021 03:11PM

  Interesting Premise... I Agree

LoboRam19February 23, 2021 06:28PM

  Good posts Rock and Dz

Coy Bacon84February 22, 2021 05:23PM

  Re: Good posts Rock and Dz

zn58February 22, 2021 05:40PM

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zn47February 22, 2021 06:57PM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

dzrams68February 23, 2021 08:05PM

  Wow. That's some amazing research you did.

RockRam32February 24, 2021 01:58AM

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zn40February 24, 2021 07:14AM

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dzrams25February 24, 2021 09:06AM

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zn19February 24, 2021 10:04AM

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dzrams21February 24, 2021 10:25AM

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zn19February 24, 2021 10:39AM

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dzrams19February 24, 2021 11:38AM

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zn19February 24, 2021 11:55AM

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dzrams20February 24, 2021 12:12PM

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zn25February 24, 2021 12:27PM

  There are several things about McVay that I ‘know’ to be true...

Rams4359February 24, 2021 07:44AM

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zn36February 24, 2021 08:08AM

  A lot of assumptions to make us seem brilliant

BumRap43February 24, 2021 09:01AM