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Re: Agreed!

February 22, 2021 12:45PM
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RockRam
And even more, even "B" (let alone "C"winking smiley QBs are getting superstar type money teams are so desperate just to have a competent QB. But a competent QB likely will not get you to a Superbowl win. You need a very good one.

So why give huge bucks to merely competent QBs? Time to rethink this whole thing. And I think a team needs to keep churning the college QB mill until they get a real star, but still not sign him until the last second before he becomes a FA. And then be pragmatic about it. Does there seem to be more upside? Has the QB seemed to have peaked? Is he limited in what he does? Is he a good leader? Does he have the personality to be the face of the franchise?

Few HCs have the cajones to move on from a merely good to a potentially better QB..... the old bird in the hand proverb. That's fine if having 9-7'ish seasons are good enough. But not if you want to be a top team.

I like the Snead and McVay approach. Go big or go home.

Every so often you have a competent QB win a SB but it's just not often enough for me to build a team around them if I was in charge.

There's an old proverb: "the enemy of the best is often the good."

It's the good QBs that lead to no man's land of 9-7 seasons over and over. When they're paid the same amount as the top guys, it's a problem. You're not good enough to win, not bad enough to draft in the top 10 and get a real franchise QB, and you don't have a ton of money b/c the guy cost as much as an elite QB.

That's the issue with the bottom of Tier 2 QBs.
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  Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

RockRam815February 22, 2021 10:58AM

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dzrams202February 22, 2021 11:36AM

  Agreed!

RockRam137February 22, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: Agreed!

dzrams97February 22, 2021 12:45PM

  Re: Agreed!

oldschoolramfan42February 23, 2021 04:53AM

  Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

Saguaro77February 23, 2021 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

zn53February 23, 2021 06:44AM

  a thought on yer post, Sag...btw good to read ya again!...

SunTzu_vs_Camus41February 23, 2021 08:15AM

  I think this is a good point

zn33February 23, 2021 10:39AM

  Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Saguaro38February 23, 2021 12:27PM

  for the record

zn32February 23, 2021 02:05PM

  Re: for the record

dzrams25February 23, 2021 02:22PM

  Re: for the record

zn27February 23, 2021 02:42PM

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dzrams20February 23, 2021 02:45PM

  agreed, zn...

SunTzu_vs_Camus21February 24, 2021 01:01AM

  Re: Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Rampage2K-26February 23, 2021 06:16PM

  yep, I agree with that....

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zn13February 24, 2021 04:17PM

  Know what might be interesting?

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  Re: Know what might be interesting?

zn16February 24, 2021 06:02PM

  Re: Looking at this from another angle ...

AlbaNY_Ram12February 26, 2021 03:44AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

dzrams31February 23, 2021 02:42PM

  Lotta good points there, something I disagree with tho...

Saguaro25February 24, 2021 09:39AM

  Re: Fair point....nm

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dzrams41February 22, 2021 01:06PM

  I did the math myself

zn60February 22, 2021 01:17PM

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dzrams907February 22, 2021 01:31PM

  Question

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  Cowboys about to find out if they don't sign Dak

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zn16February 22, 2021 07:23PM

  You're absolutely right.

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Rams4339February 22, 2021 03:11PM

  Interesting Premise... I Agree

LoboRam11February 23, 2021 06:28PM

  Good posts Rock and Dz

Coy Bacon65February 22, 2021 05:23PM

  Re: Good posts Rock and Dz

zn48February 22, 2021 05:40PM

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zn35February 22, 2021 06:57PM

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  Wow. That's some amazing research you did.

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  There are several things about McVay that I ‘know’ to be true...

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  A lot of assumptions to make us seem brilliant

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