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Re: Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

February 23, 2021 06:16PM
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Saguaro
I think McVay is pretty secure. Stan's not going to fire him anytime soon, whether this works or not.
I think he's motivated by a desire to win, not to avoid the axe. Heck, if he was fired he'd have a job again in about 5 seconds!

Yeah, football is a team game for sure.

I just see a lot of posts saying how MUCH better Stafford is than Goff. Light years better. No comparison. No training wheels. No babysitting. No limitations on the offense now. The whole offense is going to be better now, and more PPG and all that.

So it's only logical, I think, at that point, to ask "well how much better will the Rams do then? With a QB that's light years better? How many more wins? How much farther into the playoffs? Given how far they went dragging Goff like an anchor, all the way to the superbowl, shouldn't they win it now?"

And that's when people get all squirrely, and start trying to lower expectations all of a sudden, and saying "weeellll, there's no guarantees, you know." and I laugh. Because there's a big disconnect there between "Stafford is so much better than Goff", and "gee, who knows if they'll actually get any farther".

I'm thinking they just grew to dislike Goff (so did McVay, apparently), so now they want to love Stafford, but they're not really all that secure in their belief that it's going make a big difference.

I know you played QB, and I wonder. Despite some flaws that became obvious with Jared, does Matt Stafford just do everything better? Or are there maybe some things that Goff is better at that don't show up in his stat line.

Goff couldn't elevate the team, it is said. Goff couldn't put a team on his back and carry them. Despite his stats, did Matt Stafford ever take the Lions anywhere? They were not a good franchise or team, most of the time, but the idea was to get a cube that elevates everyone else, I thought. There's no real evidence that happened in Detroit.

Anyway, I know I'm a small minority here, and I haven't belabored the point. This is only my 3rd or 4th post on it since the trade.
I just think it's a point of view to consider along with all the hurrahs.

You're not alone in that line of thinking....all of my season ticket holder friends pretty much feel the same way....the bar has been set by Jared by winning the NFC and a trip to the Super Bowl so if they're going to give up on that after basically 4 years into his career along with two first round picks, well they better make damn sure it was worth it...like it or not Stafford is going to be compared to what Goff has already done....simply saying "oh well they tried" isn't going to cut it for many at this point

I'll be rooting like hell for it to be worth it, but highly disappointed if it wasn't.....I think most Rams fans will feel the exact same way

hope to see you at a game next year!!smileys with beer




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  Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

RockRam859February 22, 2021 10:58AM

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dzrams233February 22, 2021 11:36AM

  Agreed!

RockRam158February 22, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: Agreed!

dzrams114February 22, 2021 12:45PM

  Re: Agreed!

oldschoolramfan58February 23, 2021 04:53AM

  Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

Saguaro102February 23, 2021 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

zn64February 23, 2021 06:44AM

  a thought on yer post, Sag...btw good to read ya again!...

SunTzu_vs_Camus54February 23, 2021 08:15AM

  I think this is a good point

zn43February 23, 2021 10:39AM

  Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Saguaro52February 23, 2021 12:27PM

  for the record

zn41February 23, 2021 02:05PM

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dzrams34February 23, 2021 02:22PM

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zn38February 23, 2021 02:42PM

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dzrams28February 23, 2021 02:45PM

  agreed, zn...

SunTzu_vs_Camus30February 24, 2021 01:01AM

  Re: Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Rampage2K-38February 23, 2021 06:16PM

  yep, I agree with that....

SunTzu_vs_Camus29February 24, 2021 12:50AM

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dzrams21February 24, 2021 03:00PM

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zn21February 24, 2021 04:17PM

  Know what might be interesting?

Rams4322February 24, 2021 05:14PM

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zn25February 24, 2021 06:02PM

  Re: Looking at this from another angle ...

AlbaNY_Ram22February 26, 2021 03:44AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

dzrams40February 23, 2021 02:42PM

  Lotta good points there, something I disagree with tho...

Saguaro40February 24, 2021 09:39AM

  Re: Fair point....nm

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dzrams51February 22, 2021 01:06PM

  I did the math myself

zn75February 22, 2021 01:17PM

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dzrams1774February 22, 2021 01:31PM

  Question

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  Cowboys about to find out if they don't sign Dak

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dzrams21February 24, 2021 09:27AM

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zn25February 22, 2021 07:23PM

  You're absolutely right.

Ram_Ruler60February 22, 2021 01:23PM

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Rams4348February 22, 2021 03:11PM

  Interesting Premise... I Agree

LoboRam19February 23, 2021 06:28PM

  Good posts Rock and Dz

Coy Bacon84February 22, 2021 05:23PM

  Re: Good posts Rock and Dz

zn58February 22, 2021 05:40PM

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zn47February 22, 2021 06:57PM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

dzrams68February 23, 2021 08:05PM

  Wow. That's some amazing research you did.

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zn25February 24, 2021 12:27PM

  There are several things about McVay that I ‘know’ to be true...

Rams4359February 24, 2021 07:44AM

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zn36February 24, 2021 08:08AM

  A lot of assumptions to make us seem brilliant

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