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Re: Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

February 23, 2021 06:16PM
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Saguaro
I think McVay is pretty secure. Stan's not going to fire him anytime soon, whether this works or not.
I think he's motivated by a desire to win, not to avoid the axe. Heck, if he was fired he'd have a job again in about 5 seconds!

Yeah, football is a team game for sure.

I just see a lot of posts saying how MUCH better Stafford is than Goff. Light years better. No comparison. No training wheels. No babysitting. No limitations on the offense now. The whole offense is going to be better now, and more PPG and all that.

So it's only logical, I think, at that point, to ask "well how much better will the Rams do then? With a QB that's light years better? How many more wins? How much farther into the playoffs? Given how far they went dragging Goff like an anchor, all the way to the superbowl, shouldn't they win it now?"

And that's when people get all squirrely, and start trying to lower expectations all of a sudden, and saying "weeellll, there's no guarantees, you know." and I laugh. Because there's a big disconnect there between "Stafford is so much better than Goff", and "gee, who knows if they'll actually get any farther".

I'm thinking they just grew to dislike Goff (so did McVay, apparently), so now they want to love Stafford, but they're not really all that secure in their belief that it's going make a big difference.

I know you played QB, and I wonder. Despite some flaws that became obvious with Jared, does Matt Stafford just do everything better? Or are there maybe some things that Goff is better at that don't show up in his stat line.

Goff couldn't elevate the team, it is said. Goff couldn't put a team on his back and carry them. Despite his stats, did Matt Stafford ever take the Lions anywhere? They were not a good franchise or team, most of the time, but the idea was to get a cube that elevates everyone else, I thought. There's no real evidence that happened in Detroit.

Anyway, I know I'm a small minority here, and I haven't belabored the point. This is only my 3rd or 4th post on it since the trade.
I just think it's a point of view to consider along with all the hurrahs.

You're not alone in that line of thinking....all of my season ticket holder friends pretty much feel the same way....the bar has been set by Jared by winning the NFC and a trip to the Super Bowl so if they're going to give up on that after basically 4 years into his career along with two first round picks, well they better make damn sure it was worth it...like it or not Stafford is going to be compared to what Goff has already done....simply saying "oh well they tried" isn't going to cut it for many at this point

I'll be rooting like hell for it to be worth it, but highly disappointed if it wasn't.....I think most Rams fans will feel the exact same way

hope to see you at a game next year!!smileys with beer



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  Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

RockRam1244February 22, 2021 10:58AM

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dzrams598February 22, 2021 11:36AM

  Agreed!

RockRam302February 22, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: Agreed!

dzrams391February 22, 2021 12:45PM

  Re: Agreed!

oldschoolramfan347February 23, 2021 04:53AM

  Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

Saguaro325February 23, 2021 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

zn299February 23, 2021 06:44AM

  a thought on yer post, Sag...btw good to read ya again!...

SunTzu_vs_Camus432February 23, 2021 08:15AM

  I think this is a good point

zn214February 23, 2021 10:39AM

  Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Saguaro340February 23, 2021 12:27PM

  for the record

zn212February 23, 2021 02:05PM

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dzrams310February 23, 2021 02:22PM

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zn209February 23, 2021 02:42PM

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dzrams181February 23, 2021 02:45PM

  agreed, zn...

SunTzu_vs_Camus377February 24, 2021 01:01AM

  Re: Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Rampage2K-206February 23, 2021 06:16PM

  yep, I agree with that....

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zn189February 24, 2021 04:17PM

  Know what might be interesting?

Rams43170February 24, 2021 05:14PM

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zn196February 24, 2021 06:02PM

  Re: Looking at this from another angle ...

AlbaNY_Ram173February 26, 2021 03:44AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

dzrams208February 23, 2021 02:42PM

  Lotta good points there, something I disagree with tho...

Saguaro498February 24, 2021 09:39AM

  Re: Fair point....nm

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dzrams288February 22, 2021 01:06PM

  I did the math myself

zn206February 22, 2021 01:17PM

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dzrams2317February 22, 2021 01:31PM

  Question

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  Cowboys about to find out if they don't sign Dak

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zn597February 22, 2021 07:23PM

  You're absolutely right.

Ram_Ruler225February 22, 2021 01:23PM

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Rams43265February 22, 2021 03:11PM

  Interesting Premise... I Agree

LoboRam208February 23, 2021 06:28PM

  Good posts Rock and Dz

Coy Bacon358February 22, 2021 05:23PM

  Re: Good posts Rock and Dz

zn316February 22, 2021 05:40PM

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zn251February 22, 2021 06:57PM

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dzrams261February 23, 2021 08:05PM

  Wow. That's some amazing research you did.

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zn283February 24, 2021 12:27PM

  There are several things about McVay that I ‘know’ to be true...

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zn234February 24, 2021 08:08AM

  A lot of assumptions to make us seem brilliant

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