February 22, 2021 12:45PM
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RockRam
And even more, even "B" (let alone "C"winking smiley QBs are getting superstar type money teams are so desperate just to have a competent QB. But a competent QB likely will not get you to a Superbowl win. You need a very good one.

So why give huge bucks to merely competent QBs? Time to rethink this whole thing. And I think a team needs to keep churning the college QB mill until they get a real star, but still not sign him until the last second before he becomes a FA. And then be pragmatic about it. Does there seem to be more upside? Has the QB seemed to have peaked? Is he limited in what he does? Is he a good leader? Does he have the personality to be the face of the franchise?

Few HCs have the cajones to move on from a merely good to a potentially better QB..... the old bird in the hand proverb. That's fine if having 9-7'ish seasons are good enough. But not if you want to be a top team.

I like the Snead and McVay approach. Go big or go home.

Every so often you have a competent QB win a SB but it's just not often enough for me to build a team around them if I was in charge.

There's an old proverb: "the enemy of the best is often the good."

It's the good QBs that lead to no man's land of 9-7 seasons over and over. When they're paid the same amount as the top guys, it's a problem. You're not good enough to win, not bad enough to draft in the top 10 and get a real franchise QB, and you don't have a ton of money b/c the guy cost as much as an elite QB.

That's the issue with the bottom of Tier 2 QBs.
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  Interesting as teams try to plug QB holes

RockRam1242February 22, 2021 10:58AM

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dzrams597February 22, 2021 11:36AM

  Agreed!

RockRam301February 22, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: Agreed!

dzrams390February 22, 2021 12:45PM

  Re: Agreed!

oldschoolramfan347February 23, 2021 04:53AM

  Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

Saguaro323February 23, 2021 06:33AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

zn299February 23, 2021 06:44AM

  a thought on yer post, Sag...btw good to read ya again!...

SunTzu_vs_Camus431February 23, 2021 08:15AM

  I think this is a good point

zn214February 23, 2021 10:39AM

  Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Saguaro339February 23, 2021 12:27PM

  for the record

zn212February 23, 2021 02:05PM

  Re: for the record

dzrams309February 23, 2021 02:22PM

  Re: for the record

zn209February 23, 2021 02:42PM

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dzrams181February 23, 2021 02:45PM

  agreed, zn...

SunTzu_vs_Camus376February 24, 2021 01:01AM

  Re: Good post. Thx, STvC, and hope all is well with you, too!

Rampage2K-206February 23, 2021 06:16PM

  yep, I agree with that....

SunTzu_vs_Camus221February 24, 2021 12:50AM

  Re: yep, I agree with that....

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Rams43223February 24, 2021 07:50AM

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zn188February 24, 2021 04:17PM

  Know what might be interesting?

Rams43169February 24, 2021 05:14PM

  Re: Know what might be interesting?

zn194February 24, 2021 06:02PM

  Re: Looking at this from another angle ...

AlbaNY_Ram172February 26, 2021 03:44AM

  Re: Sorry, dz, but you got the proverb and its meaning exactly backwards.

dzrams207February 23, 2021 02:42PM

  Lotta good points there, something I disagree with tho...

Saguaro497February 24, 2021 09:39AM

  Re: Fair point....nm

dzrams185February 24, 2021 09:44AM

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zn424February 22, 2021 12:07PM

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dzrams246February 22, 2021 12:37PM

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zn311February 22, 2021 12:51PM

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dzrams288February 22, 2021 01:06PM

  I did the math myself

zn204February 22, 2021 01:17PM

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dzrams2317February 22, 2021 01:31PM

  Question

DaJudge235February 22, 2021 02:34PM

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zn241February 22, 2021 07:09PM

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dzrams210February 23, 2021 08:12PM

  Cowboys about to find out if they don't sign Dak

BumRap324February 24, 2021 09:15AM

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dzrams222February 24, 2021 09:27AM

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zn200February 22, 2021 02:48PM

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zn263February 22, 2021 06:37PM

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dzrams191February 22, 2021 07:20PM

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zn595February 22, 2021 07:23PM

  You're absolutely right.

Ram_Ruler225February 22, 2021 01:23PM

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Rams43265February 22, 2021 03:11PM

  Interesting Premise... I Agree

LoboRam208February 23, 2021 06:28PM

  Good posts Rock and Dz

Coy Bacon358February 22, 2021 05:23PM

  Re: Good posts Rock and Dz

zn316February 22, 2021 05:40PM

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zn251February 22, 2021 06:57PM

  Re: Crunching more numbers, Doubling down on the theory...

dzrams260February 23, 2021 08:05PM

  Wow. That's some amazing research you did.

RockRam211February 24, 2021 01:58AM

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zn283February 24, 2021 12:27PM

  There are several things about McVay that I ‘know’ to be true...

Rams43215February 24, 2021 07:44AM

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zn234February 24, 2021 08:08AM

  A lot of assumptions to make us seem brilliant

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