June 07, 2021 11:42AM
On this post here, your usage of the word "public" was in regard to things fans could see and hear. https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,878879,879010#msg-879010 (e.g. "The real point is that we heard it and saw it ourselves." )

Same with this post here. https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,878879,878983#msg-878983 ("You will never see him express derision in a way others in this thread noticed too." )

Same with this post here. https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,878879,879000#msg-879000 ("And several people heard derision...and they all know the difference." )

Same with this post here. https://ramsrule.com/herd/read.php?19,878879,878953#msg-878953 ("Martz did not berate Warner in public..."; "...But when KW was the starting qb Martz spoke of him publicly with the normal kind of professional respect you generally see from coaches." )

Throughout this thread, nearly every time you used the word public you were speaking of something that fans could see, hear, or take note of. All of your references to public were to what you now refer to as press conference stuff. None of it referred to stuff in front of the team so it's really interesting to me that you're changing up now.

Besides, if it was stuff behind closed doors that was at issue, there would be no way for any of us to know that McVay's treatment crossed the line from "criticism" to "derision."

It appears to me that the public derision thing is extreme hyperbole as 43 stated. There is no case to be made that there was public derision that fans could see or hear and whatever case could even remotely be made happened after the season which has no bearing on his performance.
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  One thing I have to say about McVay....

NewMexicoRam1362June 05, 2021 09:15AM

  That's a huge reason why the idea he doesn't/didn't....

roman18316June 06, 2021 04:23AM

  Very good point

NewMexicoRam563June 06, 2021 04:46AM

  what I find odd about the Goff/McVay relationship...was

SunTzu_vs_Camus368June 06, 2021 05:49AM

  +1 (nm)

zn165June 06, 2021 06:08AM

  Well I would expect a guy who invests....

roman18214June 06, 2021 07:44AM

  I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

stlramz200June 06, 2021 08:24AM

  Re: I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

zn200June 06, 2021 08:43AM

  Re: I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

Ekern55156June 06, 2021 09:25AM

  Re: I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

zn284June 06, 2021 09:41AM

  Re: I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

Ekern55168June 06, 2021 04:59PM

  Re: I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

Rams43184June 06, 2021 10:00AM

  Re: I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

zn496June 06, 2021 12:49PM

  Re: I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

Rams43156June 06, 2021 01:30PM

  Our QB needs to take better care of the football

PHDram284June 06, 2021 03:49PM

  Re: I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

zn363June 06, 2021 04:23PM

  I forget which talking head said it but...

PA48422June 06, 2021 05:00PM

  Re: I forget which talking head said it but...

zn178June 06, 2021 05:21PM

  Tom Brady comes to mind . . .

stlramz183June 06, 2021 12:56PM

  different view

zn175June 06, 2021 01:04PM

  Re: come on, keep up

moklerman167June 06, 2021 01:17PM

  Re: come on, keep up

PA48184June 06, 2021 05:07PM

  Its known as the "Appeal to purity fallacy"

stlramz223June 06, 2021 07:01PM

  Omg that is great!

PHDram170June 06, 2021 07:48PM

  Re: Omg that is great!

moklerman174June 07, 2021 07:57AM

  the "fallacy" fallacy

zn186June 06, 2021 08:05PM

  It's been 6 months

PHDram186June 07, 2021 03:54AM

  Re: It's been 6 months

Ekern55141June 07, 2021 05:17PM

  Re: the "fallacy" fallacy

Ekern55202June 07, 2021 05:16PM

  Thanks

moklerman173June 07, 2021 07:59AM

  Re: I'm really curious here...

dzrams182June 06, 2021 07:48PM

  Re: I'm really curious here...

zn162June 07, 2021 01:34AM

  Re: Are you Sun...?

dzrams163June 07, 2021 06:51AM

  Thirry's Scripture

PHDram173June 07, 2021 08:18AM

  Re: Thirry's Scripture

dzrams144June 07, 2021 08:25AM

  Re: Thirry's Scripture

PHDram224June 07, 2021 08:33AM

  Re: Thirry's Scripture

dzrams167June 07, 2021 08:40AM

  fair enough NM

PHDram184June 07, 2021 08:44AM

  Re: Thirry's Scripture

zn137June 07, 2021 09:13AM

  once again...perspective

PHDram157June 07, 2021 09:21AM

  are you the who's allowed to post commission?

zn252June 07, 2021 09:41AM

  Re: I'm sensing some shifting...

dzrams161June 07, 2021 11:42AM

  sorry semantics guy, no go

zn205June 08, 2021 04:35AM

  hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

SunTzu_vs_Camus169June 07, 2021 09:45AM

  Re: hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

dzrams217June 07, 2021 10:49AM

  Re: hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

PHDram148June 07, 2021 01:07PM

  Re: interesting reading.....

leafnose150June 07, 2021 01:24PM

  Re: hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

Rampage2K-316June 07, 2021 09:14PM

  Re: hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

dzrams246June 08, 2021 07:15AM

  Re: hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

Rampage2K-148June 08, 2021 08:45AM

  Re: hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

dzrams225June 08, 2021 09:09AM

  Re: hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

zn448June 08, 2021 10:15PM

  I think he is similar to Belichick

merlin206June 06, 2021 08:41AM

  Re: I think he is similar to Belichick

zn163June 06, 2021 09:52AM

  Too much logic

RockRam171June 06, 2021 03:16PM

  Re: That's a huge reason why the idea he doesn't/didn't....

no name151June 08, 2021 02:46PM

  Re: One thing I have to say about McVay....

Steve222June 06, 2021 04:39AM

  Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy"

BlueRidgeHorns323June 06, 2021 08:49AM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

Rampage2K-559June 06, 2021 01:16PM

  It's all about perspective

moklerman156June 06, 2021 01:27PM

  Remember, McVay actually he signed off on Goff. Hmmm not so sure

Anonymous User215June 06, 2021 02:33PM

  Re: Remember, McVay actually he signed off on Goff. Hmmm not so sure

zn210June 06, 2021 02:46PM

  Re: Remember, McVay actually he signed off on Goff. Hmmm not so sure

Anonymous User466June 06, 2021 03:15PM

  i think its fait to say that Goff WAS mcvays guy

PHDram148June 07, 2021 07:10AM

  Re: i think its fait to say that Goff WAS mcvays guy

moklerman232June 07, 2021 09:52AM

  Re: i think its fait to say that Goff WAS mcvays guy

PHDram112June 07, 2021 01:17PM

  Re: i think its fait to say that Goff WAS mcvays guy

dzrams149June 07, 2021 01:27PM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

dzrams187June 06, 2021 07:58PM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

zn157June 07, 2021 03:20AM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

Rams43156June 07, 2021 05:55AM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

dzrams393June 07, 2021 07:11AM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

Rampage2K-208June 07, 2021 07:32AM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

dzrams156June 07, 2021 08:18AM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

Rampage2K-187June 07, 2021 09:15AM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

dzrams169June 07, 2021 09:25AM

  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

moklerman169June 07, 2021 10:12AM

  This is another interesting view & angle by you moklerman

Anonymous User187June 07, 2021 04:43PM

  Re: This is another interesting view & angle by you moklerman

Rampage2K-286June 07, 2021 08:48PM

  Re: This is another interesting view & angle by you moklerman

moklerman175June 07, 2021 11:28PM

  Stafford asked to be traded a week after the "he's the qb right now" comment

zn614June 07, 2021 10:31AM

  Re: No...he asked right after the season ended...

dzrams168June 07, 2021 11:04AM

  Re: No...he asked right after the season ended...

zn179June 07, 2021 11:22AM

  Re: No...he asked right after the season ended...

dzrams184June 07, 2021 12:00PM

  Re: No...he asked right after the season ended...

zn172June 07, 2021 02:16PM

  Re: No...he asked right after the season ended...

dzrams257June 07, 2021 02:23PM

  Re: No...he asked right after the season ended...

zn173June 07, 2021 04:28PM