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Re: hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

June 08, 2021 08:45AM
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Not so sure it was McVay changing and adapting to defenses , it was more adapting to life without a dynamic back like Gurley and a loss of true speed on the outside. Yes, we can spin it other ways, but both 2019 and 2020 Goff and McVay were missing those key elements to what made this team so special in 2017-2018....For some reason, Goff get's most of the blame for the regression and there is no denying his inconsistent play, but I see it more than just a Goff issue..the entire offense was inconsistent ..It's no coincidence that we spent most of our little FA budget that we had on an aging DeSean Jackson and our first pick on a Jackson Jr.... I remember watching the Niners game and Gregg Jennings say "the Rams don't have anyone who scares a defense" when referring to the Rams weapons and it is true and made it easy for good defenses to defend
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Hopefully with the emergence of Cam Akers and with some speed back on the outside, we can once again get back to what made this offense click....

The issues from the Rams perspective started before 2020.

Sure, missing key weapons is part of it...at least in 2020. According to Rodrigue though, the Rams felt that the league had caught up to McVay's scheme. This was part of the problem in 2019 when they still had Gurley and Cooks. The blueprint on how to defend the Rams offense was starting to happen in mid-2018 and the SB highlighted that issue.

McVay spent all off-season trying to draw up changes to his offense. In 2019 they still had Gurley and Cooks but teams were taking away the things they were good at. IMO, McVay initially struggled to come up with counters to how defenses were playing them. And part of the problem was that the OL was awful in the first half of 2019.

In the second half of 2019 though, the OL stabilized and McVay found his footing schematically. But we still didn't see any improvement in offensive efficiency. Per Rodrigue, McVay's frustration with Goff started at that time because he didn't feel Goff was keeping up with the changes being implemented. Many of the articles being quoted say that the relational breakdown between Goff and McVay started in 2019. Look deeper than 2020. The dissatisfaction with Goff had been building for some time and prior to them losing any weapons.

Gurley was a shell of himself in 2019 and was getting like 10 carries a game, Cooks was in and out of the line up with injuries and the O-line was a complete mess....It feels as if Goff was a scapegoat for this offense and its issues, I saw it more as an entirety than just one position....



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  That's a huge reason why the idea he doesn't/didn't....

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  Very good point

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  what I find odd about the Goff/McVay relationship...was

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  I agree with your comments about McVay and Goff

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  Our QB needs to take better care of the football

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zn360June 06, 2021 04:23PM

  I forget which talking head said it but...

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zn175June 06, 2021 05:21PM

  Tom Brady comes to mind . . .

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  different view

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  Its known as the "Appeal to purity fallacy"

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  the "fallacy" fallacy

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  It's been 6 months

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  fair enough NM

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zn134June 07, 2021 09:13AM

  once again...perspective

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  sorry semantics guy, no go

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  hey DZ, it's more a "feeling"...that I'm basing my thoughts on here

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zn443June 08, 2021 10:15PM

  I think he is similar to Belichick

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  Too much logic

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  Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy"

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  Re: Let's remember, Goff wasn't McVay's "guy" actually he signed off

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  It's all about perspective

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  Remember, McVay actually he signed off on Goff. Hmmm not so sure

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  i think its fait to say that Goff WAS mcvays guy

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  This is another interesting view & angle by you moklerman

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  Stafford asked to be traded a week after the "he's the qb right now" comment

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