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We agree on what's considered professional in that situation.
Most of the rest we disagree on which is fine. Some of the facts we disagree on and some is differences of opinion.
After considering the piles of evidence, I simply don't believe Goff heard about issues with his starting spot publicly. This is opinion where I doubt we'll change one another's minds.
IMO, it did have something to do with Stafford. We know, factually, that Stafford requested his trade just after the season ended. "
Stafford met with team president Rod Wood and owner Sheila Ford Hamp just after the season to have the conversation. The Lions were open to his request and started seeking out trade partners after the team hired Brad Holmes to be general manager and Dan Campbell as head coach."
Stafford trade requestHolmes was hired on 1/14/21 and it's been reported that Stafford's trade request was discussed in his interview process. So the league knew about Stafford's availability before 1/22/21 when McVay first made his "yeah, he's the starting QB, right now" comment.
I also don't feel that the impetus for the trade was a "disconnect" between HC and QB. I feel it was more a situation where the HC and GM felt the QB lacked critical capacity in keeping up schematically with the coach and league.
Well maybe you can't accept the fact that a young coach would be so disconnected and communicate so poorly that his own qb directly says, he did not know they were going to open up the spot to competition. One of the reasons Goff said that btw is because he knows full well the coach is supposed to communicate that to the player---he's not supposed to walk around in some mental guessing game. McVay himself said he had issues with communication. I don't exonerate McVay for EVERYTHING, he's a young coach with some flaws and IMO us facing those flaws is part of good discussion. "Enh, the qb shoulda guessed" does not get the coach off the hook for what he was
supposed to do. Looking at it your way entirely misses the point.
In terms of the timeline, no--there was no announcement of a Stafford trade until Jan 23, which is a week after the "qb right now" remark.
Stafford may have discussed it with the Lions immediately after the season, but apparently that involved a couple of weeks of discussion, and Detroit did not go public about a trade until the 23rd. And if the Rams had contact with Stafford before the 23rd, that would have been tampering.
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Matthew Stafford era in Detroit likely over as star QB requests tradePublished:
Jan 23, 2021 at 06:03 PM
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Tom Pelissero
NFL.com Reporter
The Matthew Stafford era in Detroit appears to be coming to an end.
After
meetings in recent weeks in which Stafford expressed a desire for a fresh start, the Lions understood his position and plan to begin discussing trade options in the coming weeks for their star quarterback, per sources