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Re: You are very wrong my friend...

January 19, 2021 12:21PM
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dzrams
So since we agreed to delete the 2 bad games, let's talk about the other 33 games where he's 4th highest in TOs and has an extremely low TD/TO ratio of 1.29. What's your analysis on that?

You mean you're combining the year he had the bad OL with no running game, and 2020, which are completely different issues? You know I swear every time I remind people what was going on with the OL in 2019 they swear they account for it. In fact that's the new way of ignoring it--to swear it's being accounted for. While making jokes about not accounting for it.

2019 was a different situation. And yes we can have that argument again if you want, it will remain true regardless. But 2020 is better than 2019...guess why.

Now to 2020. Okay we eliminated the 2 games in 2020. Counting the playoffs too, in 2020 that gives us a qb with 10 turnovers and 25 TDs.

On a team that is 19th in redzone TD scoring percentage and yet also one that has a qb with a 107.2 qb ranking inside the opponent's 20. (I hope I don't need to explain the contrast there).

I said from the start. People who try to make all this too simple, categorical, and cut and dried will always come up short in these discussions. They will leave holes and gaps where the big abstractions they're trying to stand behind don't hold up. They don't notice actual play trends and seem for some reason to never have balanced takes.

So, 2020. You have a qb who in 15 games, excluding the 2 big disasters (which I argue were a crisis that came and went), is 2.5 to 1 in TD to TO ratio on a team that can't score in the redzone--even though he can.

BTW thanks for including Ryan and Rivers. Their OLs fell apart in 2019 too and it had a direct effect on their numbers too, as you would normally expect it would.

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Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2021 12:28PM by zn.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Video: Orlovsky on Goff

max838January 19, 2021 06:11AM

  Great insights and says Rams will not likely move on from Goff

stlramz260January 19, 2021 06:25AM

  people DO realize, right, that the turnovers STOPPED?

zn276January 19, 2021 06:42AM

  the Rams got away from the outside zone running scheme?

Speed_Kills364January 19, 2021 06:47AM

  wrong

zn209January 19, 2021 06:56AM

  no I am not wrong

Speed_Kills166January 19, 2021 09:06AM

  Re: no I am not wrong

dzrams139January 19, 2021 09:13AM

  and maybe just maybe

Speed_Kills179January 19, 2021 09:24AM

  Re: and maybe just maybe

moklerman152January 19, 2021 10:03AM

  you have to read the post

zn146January 19, 2021 10:03AM

  Re: Sure, over a small sample size....

dzrams256January 19, 2021 06:59AM

  ah yes the perennially misused "sample size" routine

zn349January 19, 2021 07:09AM

  Re: ah yes the perennially misused "sample size" routine

dzrams189January 19, 2021 07:43AM

  so you're okay with taking a temporary blip as indicative?

zn249January 19, 2021 10:17AM

  Re: No, I'm not fine with that...

dzrams147January 19, 2021 10:36AM

  Re: No, I'm not fine with that...

zn266January 19, 2021 10:47AM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

dzrams346January 19, 2021 11:20AM

  you have to also throw out all of 2019

Deadpool151January 19, 2021 11:30AM

  Re: you have to also throw out all of 2019

dzrams136January 19, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: you have to also throw out all of 2019

zn249January 19, 2021 12:06PM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

Speed_Kills198January 19, 2021 11:47AM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

zn144January 19, 2021 11:49AM

  Re: zn, we deleted those 2 games...why are you still talking about them? (NM

dzrams240January 19, 2021 11:53AM

  Re: zn, we deleted those 2 games...why are you still talking about them? (NM

stlramz137January 19, 2021 08:37PM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

zn152January 19, 2021 12:21PM

  Re: 22 TDs zn...

dzrams156January 19, 2021 12:48PM

  nope

zn146January 19, 2021 04:40PM

  Re: nope

dzrams139January 19, 2021 05:33PM

  Re: nope

RamsFanSinceLA169January 19, 2021 05:47PM

  Re: nope

zn134January 19, 2021 06:14PM

  Re: so you're okay with taking a temporary blip as indicative?

Rams43147January 19, 2021 10:44AM

  ay ...sigh

zn331January 19, 2021 10:51AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

Rams43267January 19, 2021 11:35AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

zn209January 19, 2021 11:55AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

moklerman528January 19, 2021 06:30PM

  Fine sample size

Coy Bacon144January 19, 2021 08:28AM

  disagree

zn131January 19, 2021 10:07AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

Coy Bacon287January 19, 2021 11:06AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

zn145January 19, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

Coy Bacon161January 19, 2021 04:06PM

  no that's not my point

zn143January 19, 2021 07:54PM

  Re: disagree

RamsFanSinceLA313January 19, 2021 03:00PM

  Re: disagree

zn134January 19, 2021 03:38PM

  Re: disagree

RamsFanSinceLA160January 19, 2021 05:51PM

  Re: disagree

zn140January 19, 2021 06:22PM

  well said; balanced NM

Ram49145January 19, 2021 07:49AM

  Rams discussion starts at 6:15

Speed_Kills190January 19, 2021 06:32AM

  Re: Rams discussion starts at 6:15

Atlantic Ram344January 19, 2021 06:38AM

  agreed lol nm

Speed_Kills159January 19, 2021 06:41AM

  We'd do a better job than most of them...

max212January 19, 2021 08:34AM

  a couple of things...

Speed_Kills185January 19, 2021 08:55AM

  Only one disagreement

max210January 19, 2021 09:40AM

  Excellent listen...

Atlantic Ram202January 19, 2021 06:37AM

  Re: Excellent listen...

zn532January 19, 2021 07:01AM

  Maybe McVay feels the TO's stopped because....

Ramsfsninmd285January 19, 2021 07:11AM

  no that doesn't add up

zn139January 19, 2021 07:37AM

  And they scored 23 and 18 points...

Ramsfsninmd348January 19, 2021 07:40AM

  Re: And they scored 23 and 18 points...

zn305January 19, 2021 08:01AM

  Re: Maybe McVay feels the TO's stopped because....

Rams43165January 19, 2021 08:40AM

  Re: Excellent listen...

waterfield139January 19, 2021 12:21PM

  maybe if they block O'Connell

Atlantic Ram135January 19, 2021 03:00PM

  good points

LMU93175January 19, 2021 09:26AM

  Re: good points

zn344January 19, 2021 10:38AM

  What ticks me off

NewMexicoRam148January 19, 2021 03:03PM