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a couple of things...

January 19, 2021 08:55AM
1) In all seriousness I know you go back and forth on him... you have always been more emotionally invested in him because he was always your guy from the beginning. I didn't have that and was skeptical and needed him to win me over. So I get it believe it or not

2) I think at the very least they need to bring in competition. HAVE TO!

3) A trade for a Watson or Stafford ...how does that happen? Right now it just doesn't even seem possible. However signing Cooks, Peters, Talib, Suh, trading up for Goff, trading for Ramsey... none of those things seemed likely. <shurg>

4) We just don't know whats going on in that locker room. Max I'm telling you they have AD and JR just ballin' out man... getting paid at the top of their positons and absolutely earning it. Then you have Goff who simply isn't coming close to producing at the level of his contract. You have these two WRs you are paying all this money too. My gut just tells me McVay has to manage that and how can he not get on Goff when he is not anywhere close to pulling his weight. Obviously, I'm speculating but that would seem to be problematic to me.






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I know we go back and forth on Goff, at least I do, mostly because I just can't figure him out.

I think Orlovsky is very fair here. Goff has strengths and weaknesses, and his weaknesses have clearly outweighed his strengths since mid 2018, barring that game in NO where he outplayed Brees to get us to the SB.

I am all for moving on from him with one reservation. We will take a huge hit in CAP and draft capital to dump Goff and I juxtapose that with the possibility that Goff steps it up next year and becomes a better version of Matt Ryan. Its been said that drop back QBs really start to flourish when they're in the 27-30 year old range. I'm skeptical that it happens for Goff, but there is that risk. If we never gave him that big contract I would just let him walk, but we're stuck with that money anchor now. I dunno, maybe its just best to rip the bandaid off.

I don't blame McVay for being exasperated with Goff, and maybe McVay has gotten to the point where he has a clear idea of what he wants at QB, and its different than it was 2 years ago. It's his offense. Ultimately, McVay gets the blame if it doesn't work, so I'm good with whatever he decides. But if he goes in another direction, and it doesn't do well, and Goff matures into a really good QB and wins a SB somewhere else, McVay gets the blame as well.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/19/2021 09:45AM by Speed_Kills.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Video: Orlovsky on Goff

max838January 19, 2021 06:11AM

  Great insights and says Rams will not likely move on from Goff

stlramz260January 19, 2021 06:25AM

  people DO realize, right, that the turnovers STOPPED?

zn276January 19, 2021 06:42AM

  the Rams got away from the outside zone running scheme?

Speed_Kills364January 19, 2021 06:47AM

  wrong

zn209January 19, 2021 06:56AM

  no I am not wrong

Speed_Kills166January 19, 2021 09:06AM

  Re: no I am not wrong

dzrams138January 19, 2021 09:13AM

  and maybe just maybe

Speed_Kills179January 19, 2021 09:24AM

  Re: and maybe just maybe

moklerman152January 19, 2021 10:03AM

  you have to read the post

zn146January 19, 2021 10:03AM

  Re: Sure, over a small sample size....

dzrams256January 19, 2021 06:59AM

  ah yes the perennially misused "sample size" routine

zn348January 19, 2021 07:09AM

  Re: ah yes the perennially misused "sample size" routine

dzrams189January 19, 2021 07:43AM

  so you're okay with taking a temporary blip as indicative?

zn249January 19, 2021 10:17AM

  Re: No, I'm not fine with that...

dzrams147January 19, 2021 10:36AM

  Re: No, I'm not fine with that...

zn266January 19, 2021 10:47AM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

dzrams346January 19, 2021 11:20AM

  you have to also throw out all of 2019

Deadpool149January 19, 2021 11:30AM

  Re: you have to also throw out all of 2019

dzrams136January 19, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: you have to also throw out all of 2019

zn249January 19, 2021 12:06PM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

Speed_Kills198January 19, 2021 11:47AM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

zn144January 19, 2021 11:49AM

  Re: zn, we deleted those 2 games...why are you still talking about them? (NM

dzrams240January 19, 2021 11:53AM

  Re: zn, we deleted those 2 games...why are you still talking about them? (NM

stlramz137January 19, 2021 08:37PM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

zn152January 19, 2021 12:21PM

  Re: 22 TDs zn...

dzrams155January 19, 2021 12:48PM

  nope

zn146January 19, 2021 04:40PM

  Re: nope

dzrams139January 19, 2021 05:33PM

  Re: nope

RamsFanSinceLA169January 19, 2021 05:47PM

  Re: nope

zn133January 19, 2021 06:14PM

  Re: so you're okay with taking a temporary blip as indicative?

Rams43145January 19, 2021 10:44AM

  ay ...sigh

zn331January 19, 2021 10:51AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

Rams43267January 19, 2021 11:35AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

zn208January 19, 2021 11:55AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

moklerman528January 19, 2021 06:30PM

  Fine sample size

Coy Bacon143January 19, 2021 08:28AM

  disagree

zn131January 19, 2021 10:07AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

Coy Bacon287January 19, 2021 11:06AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

zn144January 19, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

Coy Bacon161January 19, 2021 04:06PM

  no that's not my point

zn143January 19, 2021 07:54PM

  Re: disagree

RamsFanSinceLA313January 19, 2021 03:00PM

  Re: disagree

zn134January 19, 2021 03:38PM

  Re: disagree

RamsFanSinceLA160January 19, 2021 05:51PM

  Re: disagree

zn140January 19, 2021 06:22PM

  well said; balanced NM

Ram49145January 19, 2021 07:49AM

  Rams discussion starts at 6:15

Speed_Kills190January 19, 2021 06:32AM

  Re: Rams discussion starts at 6:15

Atlantic Ram344January 19, 2021 06:38AM

  agreed lol nm

Speed_Kills158January 19, 2021 06:41AM

  We'd do a better job than most of them...

max212January 19, 2021 08:34AM

  a couple of things...

Speed_Kills184January 19, 2021 08:55AM

  Only one disagreement

max210January 19, 2021 09:40AM

  Excellent listen...

Atlantic Ram202January 19, 2021 06:37AM

  Re: Excellent listen...

zn532January 19, 2021 07:01AM

  Maybe McVay feels the TO's stopped because....

Ramsfsninmd284January 19, 2021 07:11AM

  no that doesn't add up

zn139January 19, 2021 07:37AM

  And they scored 23 and 18 points...

Ramsfsninmd348January 19, 2021 07:40AM

  Re: And they scored 23 and 18 points...

zn304January 19, 2021 08:01AM

  Re: Maybe McVay feels the TO's stopped because....

Rams43164January 19, 2021 08:40AM

  Re: Excellent listen...

waterfield139January 19, 2021 12:21PM

  maybe if they block O'Connell

Atlantic Ram135January 19, 2021 03:00PM

  good points

LMU93175January 19, 2021 09:26AM

  Re: good points

zn344January 19, 2021 10:38AM

  What ticks me off

NewMexicoRam148January 19, 2021 03:03PM