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Re: and maybe just maybe

January 19, 2021 10:03AM
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Speed_Kills
that's why the coach is upset too

I mean we have all of this data and I do think some people just ignore it
Since '18, it's been a long list of everyone but Goff. Gurley wasn't 100%, Watkins wasn't good enough, Cooks wasn't good enough, the OL wasn't actually any good, the OL was just bad, the OL coach was bad, the TE wasn't good enough, etc. It's always something or someone other than Goff. And, to some degree there is validity in those excuses but I think we've got 3 seasons...no, 4 different seasons worth of data and examples showing Goff does not produce unless the circumstances are VERY particular.

Most like to write off his rookie season but I think in retrospect, we need to actually consider it again. I no longer just accept that Fisher was just bad and Goff had no part in his own struggles. I mean, the oft-maligned Bradford was relatively productive for Fisher so it was POSSIBLE for a QB to not be an absolute trainwreck under Fisher. The last 41 games worth of examples show that Goff is struggling to produce even under McVay. It is more than fair to now give someone else a look to see if it's the offense or the QB?

Some have suggested that McVay needs to run a Bear-Raid like offense to utilize Goff's strengths but I think that assumes that McVay has not done what he can to make Goff comfortable. Which I think is a huge leap. McVay took a rookie bust and made him into a back to back pro-bowler. But everyone's got a ceiling and it seems Goff reached his half way through '18. Whatever his weak points are, the NFL has exploited them to the point that dink-and-dunk is all McVay has left with Goff.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Video: Orlovsky on Goff

max837January 19, 2021 06:11AM

  Great insights and says Rams will not likely move on from Goff

stlramz260January 19, 2021 06:25AM

  people DO realize, right, that the turnovers STOPPED?

zn275January 19, 2021 06:42AM

  the Rams got away from the outside zone running scheme?

Speed_Kills364January 19, 2021 06:47AM

  wrong

zn209January 19, 2021 06:56AM

  no I am not wrong

Speed_Kills165January 19, 2021 09:06AM

  Re: no I am not wrong

dzrams138January 19, 2021 09:13AM

  and maybe just maybe

Speed_Kills179January 19, 2021 09:24AM

  Re: and maybe just maybe

moklerman151January 19, 2021 10:03AM

  you have to read the post

zn145January 19, 2021 10:03AM

  Re: Sure, over a small sample size....

dzrams256January 19, 2021 06:59AM

  ah yes the perennially misused "sample size" routine

zn348January 19, 2021 07:09AM

  Re: ah yes the perennially misused "sample size" routine

dzrams188January 19, 2021 07:43AM

  so you're okay with taking a temporary blip as indicative?

zn249January 19, 2021 10:17AM

  Re: No, I'm not fine with that...

dzrams146January 19, 2021 10:36AM

  Re: No, I'm not fine with that...

zn265January 19, 2021 10:47AM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

dzrams345January 19, 2021 11:20AM

  you have to also throw out all of 2019

Deadpool149January 19, 2021 11:30AM

  Re: you have to also throw out all of 2019

dzrams136January 19, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: you have to also throw out all of 2019

zn249January 19, 2021 12:06PM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

Speed_Kills198January 19, 2021 11:47AM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

zn144January 19, 2021 11:49AM

  Re: zn, we deleted those 2 games...why are you still talking about them? (NM

dzrams239January 19, 2021 11:53AM

  Re: zn, we deleted those 2 games...why are you still talking about them? (NM

stlramz137January 19, 2021 08:37PM

  Re: You are very wrong my friend...

zn152January 19, 2021 12:21PM

  Re: 22 TDs zn...

dzrams155January 19, 2021 12:48PM

  nope

zn146January 19, 2021 04:40PM

  Re: nope

dzrams139January 19, 2021 05:33PM

  Re: nope

RamsFanSinceLA168January 19, 2021 05:47PM

  Re: nope

zn133January 19, 2021 06:14PM

  Re: so you're okay with taking a temporary blip as indicative?

Rams43145January 19, 2021 10:44AM

  ay ...sigh

zn331January 19, 2021 10:51AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

Rams43267January 19, 2021 11:35AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

zn208January 19, 2021 11:55AM

  Re: ay ...sigh

moklerman528January 19, 2021 06:30PM

  Fine sample size

Coy Bacon143January 19, 2021 08:28AM

  disagree

zn130January 19, 2021 10:07AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

Coy Bacon287January 19, 2021 11:06AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

zn144January 19, 2021 11:59AM

  Re: disagree, shrug

Coy Bacon161January 19, 2021 04:06PM

  no that's not my point

zn142January 19, 2021 07:54PM

  Re: disagree

RamsFanSinceLA313January 19, 2021 03:00PM

  Re: disagree

zn134January 19, 2021 03:38PM

  Re: disagree

RamsFanSinceLA160January 19, 2021 05:51PM

  Re: disagree

zn139January 19, 2021 06:22PM

  well said; balanced NM

Ram49145January 19, 2021 07:49AM

  Rams discussion starts at 6:15

Speed_Kills189January 19, 2021 06:32AM

  Re: Rams discussion starts at 6:15

Atlantic Ram344January 19, 2021 06:38AM

  agreed lol nm

Speed_Kills158January 19, 2021 06:41AM

  We'd do a better job than most of them...

max212January 19, 2021 08:34AM

  a couple of things...

Speed_Kills184January 19, 2021 08:55AM

  Only one disagreement

max210January 19, 2021 09:40AM

  Excellent listen...

Atlantic Ram202January 19, 2021 06:37AM

  Re: Excellent listen...

zn532January 19, 2021 07:01AM

  Maybe McVay feels the TO's stopped because....

Ramsfsninmd284January 19, 2021 07:11AM

  no that doesn't add up

zn138January 19, 2021 07:37AM

  And they scored 23 and 18 points...

Ramsfsninmd347January 19, 2021 07:40AM

  Re: And they scored 23 and 18 points...

zn304January 19, 2021 08:01AM

  Re: Maybe McVay feels the TO's stopped because....

Rams43164January 19, 2021 08:40AM

  Re: Excellent listen...

waterfield139January 19, 2021 12:21PM

  maybe if they block O'Connell

Atlantic Ram135January 19, 2021 03:00PM

  good points

LMU93174January 19, 2021 09:26AM

  Re: good points

zn344January 19, 2021 10:38AM

  What ticks me off

NewMexicoRam148January 19, 2021 03:03PM