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yes but to me that's not the important thing in the discussion

April 09, 2018 08:56AM
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SunTzu_vs_Camus
any thots as to why?
It seems as though there's precedent from yer post...and I'm not sure why they have not gotten it done then.

R the Rams lowballing?
Is AD high-ballin???
...or it gets done later this Summer or by the sometime during the season?


btw - It's not my choice/preference to trade AD...
just sayin I think the Rams have a budget and that might be the delay....I dunno.

We HAVE seen the Rams lowball before. And maybe, as some think, AD just wants too much. The Rams say it was structure, not the amount. But to me none of that is the important thing in this part of the overall discussion.

What's important is that some advocate tagging him for 2 years. Why? To get him on the cheap.

I was just pointing out that IF the Rams do that, they would be the only team in this situation that DID do that. Meaning, other star players considered the best at their position have used the 3rd year negotiation option, and in no case did any team just end up lowballing the guy by tagging him.

IF the Rams do that they would be the only team that HAS done that.

Dick Vermeil brought many things to the team to help make them winners. One is little known. At the time, the penny pinching, bad management team of Shaw and Zygmunt wanted to just unceremoniously dump the injured center, Bern Brostek, and do it in a penny-pinching way. Vermeil talked them out of it. He said you cannot build positive team morale if the team treats players without respect. THAT is more important than any money you gain or save. So the Rams listened to him and (I forget the details) treated Brostek more fairly. He was a dedicated player and locker room good guy and by showing him respect in how they treated him, it sent a positive message. Vermeil believed doing that contributed to positive team building.

It's a bad message to take a star player who does the right things the right way and just treat him like a commodity that way. It's bad management. Players see that kind of thing and draw conclusions. You pay a guy like that. You don't tag him and treat him like cattle.

And in this case, there is no Marcus Peters. That is, Tru was not a generational transcendent player. You could move on from Tru and trade for someone better. Donald IS the someone better.

If the Rams are delaying because of a budget, they have the wrong budget.
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  When Will Donald Sign? My Opinion, Your Thoughts...

troublefree867April 06, 2018 06:23AM

  Re: When Will Donald Sign? My Opinion, Your Thoughts...

reggae424April 06, 2018 06:27AM

  Re: When Will Donald Sign? My Opinion, Your Thoughts...

Ramsfan1971266April 09, 2018 03:24PM

  Re: When Will Donald Sign? My Opinion, Your Thoughts...

oldschoolramfan342April 06, 2018 06:29AM

  Re: When Will Donald Sign? My Opinion, Your Thoughts...

Rams43365April 06, 2018 06:40AM

  Re: When Will Donald Sign? My Opinion, Your Thoughts...

SoCalRAMatic313April 06, 2018 06:53AM

  Re: When Will Donald Sign? My Opinion, Your Thoughts...

Ramsdude337April 06, 2018 06:53AM

  An assumption?

RFL351April 06, 2018 07:29AM

  Re: An assumption?

Ramsdude345April 06, 2018 07:40AM

  Cool.

RFL311April 06, 2018 07:45AM

  Re: Cool.

Ramsdude281April 06, 2018 07:48AM

  I pretty much agree 100%...

jemach302April 06, 2018 11:52AM

  I normally side with the team but AD is an exception

stlramz278April 07, 2018 04:01AM

  Re: I normally side with the team but AD is an exception

Rams43266April 07, 2018 05:51AM

  Re: An assumption?

dzrams277April 06, 2018 07:50AM

  Re: An assumption?

Ramsdude272April 06, 2018 07:58AM

  Re: An assumption?

SoCalRAMatic297April 06, 2018 07:57AM

  Re: +1....NM

dzrams264April 06, 2018 07:50AM

  +1 and well put (nm)

zn287April 06, 2018 09:26AM

  I also think it's about Donald and Mack

alyoshamucci329April 06, 2018 09:10AM

  DT is out of Skew can't pay like a QB

David Deacon322April 06, 2018 09:58AM

  what do you think qb money IS?

zn307April 06, 2018 10:12AM

  Re: what do you think qb money IS?

Rampage2K-307April 06, 2018 11:13AM

  nope, as in absolutely nope

zn287April 06, 2018 01:18PM

  Re: nope, as in absolutely nope

Rampage2K-289April 06, 2018 01:32PM

  Re: what do you think qb money IS?

David Deacon252April 06, 2018 11:17AM

  Re: what do you think qb money IS?

zn272April 07, 2018 03:45PM

  You need to ask what can he make after 3 years.

David Deacon325April 06, 2018 11:25AM

  Re: You need to ask what can he make after 3 years.

Ramsdude297April 06, 2018 11:44AM

  Agreed!

Ramadune418April 06, 2018 12:37PM

  Re: Agreed!

SoCalRAMatic321April 06, 2018 12:44PM

  Re: Agreed!

zn263April 06, 2018 01:30PM

  Re: Agreed!

AlbaNY_Ram294April 07, 2018 12:38AM

  Re: Agreed!

Ramsdude282April 07, 2018 02:14AM

  IMO? No

zn214April 07, 2018 07:04AM

  Re: Agreed!

bigjimram21342April 07, 2018 03:08PM

  Don't QBs only play half of the game?

jemach248April 07, 2018 06:14AM

  Re: Don't QBs only play half of the game?

Rams43303April 07, 2018 06:54AM

  I wouldn't be so certain...

jemach308April 07, 2018 07:14AM

  Re: I wouldn't be so certain...

Rams43286April 07, 2018 07:23AM

  Re: 3 players, 1 tag. That's a problem...

dzrams263April 07, 2018 07:54AM

  Re: 3 players, 1 tag. That's a problem...

Rams43279April 07, 2018 08:39AM

  Re: 3 players, 1 tag. That's a problem...

dzrams239April 07, 2018 09:02AM

  All that PLUS...

Ramadune297April 06, 2018 01:19PM

  Re: You need to ask what can he make after 3 years.

zn297April 06, 2018 01:25PM

  You need to ask what the salary cap will be in 3 years

Ramadune290April 06, 2018 01:53PM

  That’s NOT bad management, IMO...

Rams43292April 07, 2018 06:26AM

  An owner...no doubt...

jemach250April 07, 2018 06:38AM

  Re: An owner...no doubt...

Rams43427April 07, 2018 07:06AM

  Just one question...

jemach366April 07, 2018 07:15AM

  Re: Just one question...

Rams43264April 07, 2018 07:28AM

  Re: Just one question...

zn255April 07, 2018 07:33AM

  Re: Just one question...

Ramsdude261April 07, 2018 07:47AM

  Re: Just one question...

AlbaNY_Ram255April 07, 2018 08:25AM

  Re: Just one question...

zn285April 07, 2018 08:41AM

  Re: Just one question...

Rams43253April 07, 2018 08:55AM

  Re: Just one question...

Ramsdude441April 07, 2018 08:47AM

  Re: Just one question...

Ramsdude247April 07, 2018 11:07AM

  Re: Just one question...

Rams43431April 07, 2018 08:19AM

  then, Bad Management it is!!! Cuz I think the Rams will do that....

SunTzu_vs_Camus479April 09, 2018 01:22AM

  Re: then, Bad Management it is!!! Cuz I think the Rams will do that....

Ramsdude260April 09, 2018 05:52AM

  they will be the only team that has

zn277April 09, 2018 05:58AM

  so the re-signing of AD is overdue then....

SunTzu_vs_Camus268April 09, 2018 07:03AM

  Re: so the re-signing of AD is overdue then....

Ramsdude252April 09, 2018 07:10AM

  yes but to me that's not the important thing in the discussion

zn273April 09, 2018 08:56AM

  Re: yes but to me that's not the important thing in the discussion

Rams43251April 09, 2018 09:36AM

  Re: I’m afraid he is too costly

hammer264April 09, 2018 09:47AM

  sure he's affordable

zn302April 09, 2018 11:23AM

  Re: Not so fast

hammer283April 09, 2018 12:46PM

  Re: Not so fast

Ramsdude252April 09, 2018 12:57PM

  faster actually

zn289April 09, 2018 01:18PM

  Re: that is no basis to believe the Rams are acting in bad faith

hammer381April 09, 2018 01:46PM

  I know. I agree. You're misreading.

zn265April 09, 2018 01:53PM

  Re: I know. I agree. You're misreading.

Rams43296April 09, 2018 02:33PM

  Re: Neither misreading nor misleading

hammer294April 09, 2018 04:20PM

  Re: Neither misreading nor misleading

zn274April 09, 2018 05:25PM

  Re: here it is again, spin it if you must!

hammer288April 09, 2018 06:58PM

  Re: +++1... The tagging strategy would be penny wise, but pound foolish...NM

dzrams378April 09, 2018 11:32AM

  I think he'll sign in March 2021

Ramadune428April 06, 2018 01:25PM

  Re: I think he'll sign in March 2021

Ramsdude310April 06, 2018 01:30PM

  Re: I think he'll sign in March 2021

David Deacon271April 06, 2018 01:35PM

  It is amazing...

jemach267April 07, 2018 06:19AM

  Re: It is amazing...

AlbaNY_Ram283April 07, 2018 08:30AM

  Re: It is amazing...

zn272April 07, 2018 11:00AM

  Re: It is amazing...

AlbaNY_Ram374April 07, 2018 12:46PM

  I'm gonna go with Tuesday

IowaRam347April 07, 2018 08:40AM

  The break-even point

GarlicExile355April 07, 2018 09:00AM

  Re: The break-even point (excellent)

hammer344April 07, 2018 09:36AM