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It started in mid-2018 before the SB but I get your point.

No it didn't.

"It" is the context of 2020.

In the 2nd half of 2018 there were playcalling issues in combination with OL issues.
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I wasn't speaking of 2020 or 2019. Only 2018.

In 2018, he had trouble with certain defenses and diagnosing them in addition to the issues you mention. That struggle culminated in the SB.

What I don't do is say all the issues were everything but him. I don't see that as real analysis either.

It's just differences of opinion.

No one says "it was everything but him." I said for example he had 4 bad games in 2020. How is that not an issue with the qb? You want good discussion? Then read people and don't have agendas with individuals. That's especially true of someone who overreacts to being misread themselves and calling it "blatant misrepresentation" and things like that.

Now on to football.

2018 had OL issues though they were in the 2nd half of the season. It wasn't like 2019, but they were issues. What we saw was really 3 things IMO.

1. The OL got exposed in a lot of games. Sullivan was not holding up, Blythe was not a guard, and with those 2 struggling Hav got exposed some too.

2. The "McVay had trouble adjusting to certain fronts" issues started. They showed up in the Detroit game then showed up big time in the Chicago game. Other games too, including the superbowl. That combined with the OL issues was a big problem. We discussed all this at the time and knew full well what it was.

3. Certain defenses and fronts combined with the OL issues led to Goff struggling in a few key games. It got worse if he fell back on pressing to make plays when he shouldn't, which is the main cause of the multiple turnover games. But then he also had the NFC championship game, which you don't win if the qb is really the kind of problem certain people claim he was.

There was Gurley too but to an extent they could still run the ball in games.
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