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Re: Perhaps you misread?

June 02, 2021 02:54PM
"I could even see the rationale of criticizing McVay over just that incident but it has to be a bigger issue. A psychological one that no one could possibly diagnose from the outside, looking in."

A few comments:
1) I agree completely with Mok. There were several factors at work and us on the outside can only give our best, partially-informed educated guesses at all of them.
2) Like PhD and Zn, I liked Goff, I never thought he stank, and I hoped McVay would continue to work with him. However, like many other posters I think grabbing for Stafford was the right gamble, the smart money move, and I'm glad we did. FYI, some of my Lions friends hated Stafford and are glad they got rid of him for all those draft picks.
3) It's the off season and our egos like to argue. I'm actually seeing this discussion more as shades of gray than black and white disagreement. How much of the problem was Goff? Was McVay? Was Goff's lack of improvement, or McVay's negative attitude, etc? It's like a secret stew that had a couple of factors at work.
4) I think most all of our poster are intelligent. There are some pretty smart guys here. Clearly some guys here are deeper and more invested into the Rams world and thus are more knowledgeable than I am, and that gives me an opportunity to learn. Therefore, I would never call another Ram fan's post "ham-handed" or imply that because they don't think like me they're not really thinking. Everybody here has some good stuff to contribute.
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RamBill1665June 02, 2021 05:16AM

  The consistency that he comes in to work with

PHDram340June 02, 2021 05:40AM

  Thats the first thing that came to mind...

Atlantic Ram584June 02, 2021 06:58AM

  Re: The consistency that he comes in to work with

Rampage2K-265June 02, 2021 08:49AM

  Re: The consistency that he comes in to work with

dzrams359June 02, 2021 09:06AM

  Re: The consistency that he comes in to work with

moklerman238June 02, 2021 12:33PM

  yes but

zn382June 02, 2021 09:57AM

  i dont buy it.

PHDram304June 02, 2021 10:20AM

  Re: i dont buy it.

Rampage2K-366June 02, 2021 10:43AM

  Re: i dont buy it.

dzrams205June 02, 2021 10:51AM

  Re: i dont buy it.

Rampage2K-195June 02, 2021 11:03AM

  Agree 100%

stlramz153June 04, 2021 01:35PM

  Re: i dont buy it.

zn218June 02, 2021 11:14AM

  Perhaps you misread?

PHDram258June 02, 2021 01:29PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread?

moklerman204June 02, 2021 02:22PM

  Exactly

PHDram214June 02, 2021 02:37PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread?

Coy Bacon314June 02, 2021 02:54PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread?

zn322June 03, 2021 06:13AM

  Re: Perhaps you misread? I can't agree more PHDram

Anonymous User391June 02, 2021 02:45PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread? I can't agree more PHDram

zn210June 02, 2021 03:01PM

  Can't agree more PHDram: Sorry zn: No change here on my end

Anonymous User240June 02, 2021 03:49PM

  Re: Can't agree more PHDram: Sorry zn: No change here on my end

SoCalRAMatic319June 02, 2021 04:28PM

  Re: Can't agree more PHDram: Sorry zn: No change here on my end

zn174June 02, 2021 05:43PM

  The problem with the 4 game argument

PHDram188June 02, 2021 06:36PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

dzrams170June 02, 2021 07:07PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

zn153June 03, 2021 06:21AM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

dzrams155June 03, 2021 11:10AM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

moklerman187June 03, 2021 11:19AM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

JYB161June 04, 2021 12:30PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

dzrams160June 04, 2021 01:02PM

  And . . .

stlramz138June 04, 2021 02:04PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

PHDram164June 03, 2021 11:24AM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

moklerman147June 03, 2021 12:24PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

PHDram138June 03, 2021 12:43PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

moklerman244June 03, 2021 03:51PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

zn181June 03, 2021 04:24PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

moklerman179June 03, 2021 05:54PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

Coy Bacon176June 04, 2021 01:08PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

zn196June 04, 2021 01:47PM

  There's little to no hyperbole

moklerman141June 04, 2021 08:01PM

  Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

dzrams192June 03, 2021 06:25PM

  The problem with the 4 game argument: Well spoken dzrams

Anonymous User178June 04, 2021 02:20PM

  Re: Can't agree more PHDram: Sorry zn: No change here on my end

PHDram202June 02, 2021 06:41PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread? I can't agree more PHDram

PHDram268June 02, 2021 06:26PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread? I can't agree more PHDram

george_allen196June 03, 2021 05:02PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread? I can't agree more PHDram

zn171June 03, 2021 05:13PM

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george_allen179June 03, 2021 06:02PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread? I can't agree more PHDram

zn176June 03, 2021 06:29PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread? I can't agree more PHDram

george_allen188June 04, 2021 06:29PM

  Re: Perhaps you misread? I can't agree more PHDram

Coy Bacon166June 04, 2021 01:00PM

  Stafford seems to ‘see the field’ better than Goff...

Rams43286June 02, 2021 10:32AM

  Re: Stafford seems to ‘see the field’ better than Goff...

zn305June 02, 2021 10:37AM

  Re: Stafford seems to ‘see the field’ better than Goff...

dzrams389June 02, 2021 10:39AM

  Re: Stafford seems to ‘see the field’ better than Goff...

PHDram314June 02, 2021 10:49AM

  True, but...

moklerman330June 04, 2021 08:09PM