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Re: The problem with the 4 game argument

June 03, 2021 06:21AM
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Is that you focus on the forest instead of the trees. In otherwords it ignores the type of defense or specifuc teams he faced. Goff seemed to have trouble with the same teams and/or same defensive systems starting with the SB. This issue sugests the possibility that he didn't have trouble reading defenses overall but may have had trouble with certain defenses or schemes which in turn frustrated mcvay because he wasn't learning from past mistakes.

It started in mid-2018 before the SB but I get your point.

No it didn't.

"It" is the context of 2020.

In the 2nd half of 2018 there were playcalling issues in combination with OL issues. In 2019 there were huge OL issues--it defined the season.

Leave that out and it's not real analysis. Based on the fact that real analysis means including all relevant factors. As a rule, if all you ever look at is the qb, then, the qb is all you're ever going to see. But that's not football analysis.

2020 was not 2019--it had nowhere near the same kinds of OL issues. Pretending they are the same just means omitting too many facts. So whoever wants to see a continued set of identical Goff issues can see that if they want--but only by leaving important things out. Like the most common omission--where for some reason, people who follow football actually and really do not account for the OL (in spite of claiming they do). 2019 was its own animal. It is a rare, rare qb who rises above OL issues like the issues they had that season. Stafford for example certainly never has.

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