Todd France CAA: Agent for Joey Bosa and Aaron Donald
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Todd France CAA: Agent for Joey Bosa and Aaron Donald
This dude is a shrewd/stubborn smart business man.. I don't like him because he's Donald's agent and I'm a Rams fan. That being said, I would hire him if I was a superstar NFL player or a top 5 rated NFL draft prospect.
Mr. France and his CAA agency are big time hardball not to be taken lightly. This whole Donald thing reminds me of Orlando Pace's agent back in the day.
He's been mentioned before on the board last year.
laram had a good post last year about France and CAA...
Unfortunately laram is no longer a member of this board because I tried to message him but his account has been deactivated.
The Chargers, Joey Bosa, and CAA: None Are Blinking, but There's More Than Meets the Eye
By gtr_donald on Aug 13, 2016, 1:05pm PDT
Todd France, who works at CAA (Creative Artist Agency) and is Joey Bosa'a agent may be the major culprit for this standstill between Bosa and the Chargers. Yes, the Chargers want to defer part of his signing bonus, how much is a rumor at this point and can be open to debate, depending on which of the various sources you believe, and there is also the offset language to consider, but, all in all, the two sides aren't too far apart, theoretically.
The problem seems to reside with France and CAA, and the reason it twofold: they are not solely looking out for Bosa'a interest, and they have a tactic of playing the waiting game—hoping that the team will cave due to public pressure and a time crunch.
Agent Ron Slavin, on the Kevin Acee show on Mighty 1090, asserted that CAA isn't necessarily solely looking out for Joey Bosa's interest—they, too, have a vested interest. According to Slavin, if an agent/agency, in this case CAA, promises a top draft pick the total signing bonus up front and no offset language and cannot deliver on either and/or both, other agents and agencies are going to use that failure against CAA. How so?
When trying to acquire the top prospects for next year's draft, competing agents and agencies are going to use any prospective failures that CAA and France may have as leverage against them and as an example of why to sign with them as opposed to CAA. In essence, if France and CAA doesn't deliver on all of their promises to Bosa, it will affect them in the upcoming years when trying to land new clients, so it is in CAA's best interest to be dogmatic in negotiations because they have potential future clients to lose if they are not.
The other main factor that is holding up the negotiations is the fact that CAA is known for playing the waiting game while negotiating contracts. Andrew Brandt, a former agent and former GM of the Packers, mentioned this in an interview on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
When speaking of the Jets and their signing of quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brandt stated that the Jets gave in on what CAA and Fitzpatrick wanted, which was a one-year deal with no option for a second, which left the Jets with no leverage come next year if Fitzpatrick's services are wanted again. In essence, CAA waited the Jets out and the Jets caved.
Brandt mentioned that this is a tactic that CAA is well known for. Why is this important and/or relevant? This is key because, in the future, other agents will know that they can just wait out the Jets and get exactly what they want. The same is true for the Chargers if they acquiesce easily to CAA's contractual demands. This is why the Chargers keep using the word "precedent" when referring to these negotiations.
We know that Joey Bosa's situation is different because he is a top 3 draft pick, but agents in the future aren't going to care about that distinction.
In another interview on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, Brandt did say that there was an obvious compromise in regard to the signing bonus and how much is deferred. The problem is, according to Michael Gehlkin, is that the Bosa camp is insisting of 100% of the signing bonus the moment that Bosa signs.
So it doesn't really matter if the Chargers are willing to move from their position in the negation for the signing bonus, because the Bosa camp is steadfast in their stance.
Unless the Chargers want to look like Willie and Marcus negotiating with the store dick in Bad Santa, there really isn't a point in trying to negotiate with someone who is unwilling to move at all.
[www.boltsfromtheblue.com]
It may have taken several months longer than expected, but the San Diego Chargers have agreed to a contract with defensive end Joey Bosa. The No. 3 overall pick will report to training camp after a four-week holdout.
"We came to a fair deal," Bosa said at his introductory press conference. "There’s no animosity between any of us."
According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the deal is for four years and $25.8 million dollars. It includes a $17 million signing bonus, and the entire contract is fully guaranteed.
The Chargers and Bosa compromised on the sticking points that delayed this agreement. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Chargers included offset language in Bosa's contract, which will let them off the hook financially should they choose to decline his fifth-year option. Bosa, in return, receives the largest signing bonus in the Chargers' history.
Ever since the NFL's collective bargaining agreement established a rookie wage scale, holdouts among first-round picks have largely become obsolete. But Bosa was an outlier due to squabbling over his offset language and signing bonus. Bosa's camp sent a proposal to the team on July 28, but did not hear back from the Chargers for weeks.
On Aug. 24, the team released a statement saying it had made its best offer and Bosa's camp had rejected it. Bosa's representation, Brian Ayrault with CAA, responded publicly, saying the Chargers were trying to "manipulate facts and negotiate in the media."
The Chargers wanted to spread out Bosa's signing bonus over the life of his deal, but he reportedly demanded it all be included in the first year. If San Diego wasn't willing to do that, Bosa's camp said the team would have to remove offset language from his contract.
Offset language is designed to save an organization money if it releases an early first-round pick within the first four years of his deal. Since contracts for players taken at the top of the draft are fully guaranteed, clubs are on the hook for their salary after they're cut –– even if they sign on with another team. But offset language allows teams to get dollar-for-dollar credit. If a recently released player signs for 50 percent of his salary, for example, then his original team only has to pay the difference.
[www.sbnation.com]
Todd France
Creative Artists Agency
2017 SPORTS AGENTS COMMISSIONS — as of 9/25/17
$27.9 M
This dude is a shrewd/stubborn smart business man.. I don't like him because he's Donald's agent and I'm a Rams fan. That being said, I would hire him if I was a superstar NFL player or a top 5 rated NFL draft prospect.
Mr. France and his CAA agency are big time hardball not to be taken lightly. This whole Donald thing reminds me of Orlando Pace's agent back in the day.
He's been mentioned before on the board last year.
laram had a good post last year about France and CAA...
Unfortunately laram is no longer a member of this board because I tried to message him but his account has been deactivated.
The Chargers, Joey Bosa, and CAA: None Are Blinking, but There's More Than Meets the Eye
By gtr_donald on Aug 13, 2016, 1:05pm PDT
Todd France, who works at CAA (Creative Artist Agency) and is Joey Bosa'a agent may be the major culprit for this standstill between Bosa and the Chargers. Yes, the Chargers want to defer part of his signing bonus, how much is a rumor at this point and can be open to debate, depending on which of the various sources you believe, and there is also the offset language to consider, but, all in all, the two sides aren't too far apart, theoretically.
The problem seems to reside with France and CAA, and the reason it twofold: they are not solely looking out for Bosa'a interest, and they have a tactic of playing the waiting game—hoping that the team will cave due to public pressure and a time crunch.
Agent Ron Slavin, on the Kevin Acee show on Mighty 1090, asserted that CAA isn't necessarily solely looking out for Joey Bosa's interest—they, too, have a vested interest. According to Slavin, if an agent/agency, in this case CAA, promises a top draft pick the total signing bonus up front and no offset language and cannot deliver on either and/or both, other agents and agencies are going to use that failure against CAA. How so?
When trying to acquire the top prospects for next year's draft, competing agents and agencies are going to use any prospective failures that CAA and France may have as leverage against them and as an example of why to sign with them as opposed to CAA. In essence, if France and CAA doesn't deliver on all of their promises to Bosa, it will affect them in the upcoming years when trying to land new clients, so it is in CAA's best interest to be dogmatic in negotiations because they have potential future clients to lose if they are not.
The other main factor that is holding up the negotiations is the fact that CAA is known for playing the waiting game while negotiating contracts. Andrew Brandt, a former agent and former GM of the Packers, mentioned this in an interview on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast.
When speaking of the Jets and their signing of quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, Brandt stated that the Jets gave in on what CAA and Fitzpatrick wanted, which was a one-year deal with no option for a second, which left the Jets with no leverage come next year if Fitzpatrick's services are wanted again. In essence, CAA waited the Jets out and the Jets caved.
Brandt mentioned that this is a tactic that CAA is well known for. Why is this important and/or relevant? This is key because, in the future, other agents will know that they can just wait out the Jets and get exactly what they want. The same is true for the Chargers if they acquiesce easily to CAA's contractual demands. This is why the Chargers keep using the word "precedent" when referring to these negotiations.
We know that Joey Bosa's situation is different because he is a top 3 draft pick, but agents in the future aren't going to care about that distinction.
In another interview on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, Brandt did say that there was an obvious compromise in regard to the signing bonus and how much is deferred. The problem is, according to Michael Gehlkin, is that the Bosa camp is insisting of 100% of the signing bonus the moment that Bosa signs.
So it doesn't really matter if the Chargers are willing to move from their position in the negation for the signing bonus, because the Bosa camp is steadfast in their stance.
Unless the Chargers want to look like Willie and Marcus negotiating with the store dick in Bad Santa, there really isn't a point in trying to negotiate with someone who is unwilling to move at all.
[www.boltsfromtheblue.com]
It may have taken several months longer than expected, but the San Diego Chargers have agreed to a contract with defensive end Joey Bosa. The No. 3 overall pick will report to training camp after a four-week holdout.
"We came to a fair deal," Bosa said at his introductory press conference. "There’s no animosity between any of us."
According to NFL Network's Ian Rapoport, the deal is for four years and $25.8 million dollars. It includes a $17 million signing bonus, and the entire contract is fully guaranteed.
The Chargers and Bosa compromised on the sticking points that delayed this agreement. According to ESPN's Adam Schefter, the Chargers included offset language in Bosa's contract, which will let them off the hook financially should they choose to decline his fifth-year option. Bosa, in return, receives the largest signing bonus in the Chargers' history.
Ever since the NFL's collective bargaining agreement established a rookie wage scale, holdouts among first-round picks have largely become obsolete. But Bosa was an outlier due to squabbling over his offset language and signing bonus. Bosa's camp sent a proposal to the team on July 28, but did not hear back from the Chargers for weeks.
On Aug. 24, the team released a statement saying it had made its best offer and Bosa's camp had rejected it. Bosa's representation, Brian Ayrault with CAA, responded publicly, saying the Chargers were trying to "manipulate facts and negotiate in the media."
The Chargers wanted to spread out Bosa's signing bonus over the life of his deal, but he reportedly demanded it all be included in the first year. If San Diego wasn't willing to do that, Bosa's camp said the team would have to remove offset language from his contract.
Offset language is designed to save an organization money if it releases an early first-round pick within the first four years of his deal. Since contracts for players taken at the top of the draft are fully guaranteed, clubs are on the hook for their salary after they're cut –– even if they sign on with another team. But offset language allows teams to get dollar-for-dollar credit. If a recently released player signs for 50 percent of his salary, for example, then his original team only has to pay the difference.
[www.sbnation.com]
Todd France
Creative Artists Agency
2017 SPORTS AGENTS COMMISSIONS — as of 9/25/17
$27.9 M
