Quotemtramfan I think by year's end Whittington could become a valuable part of the Rams passing attack, more than a backup. . Since 1990 there have been a couple great 6th rounders. The guy who is like 7th or 8th in yards and receptions? Brandon Gibson. That's the upside. only about 10 of 130 or so every amount to much and Gibson was one of the best. They were 2-3 ahead of him reaby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotesince68 . . . Myles Garrett. Which is fine, because Myles Garrett is the best DE/Edge in the league. Nobody is as good as Myles Garrett right now. in the percentiles ... if you put Verse as a OLBer the score would be different ... Miller, whowas faster has a lower RAS on forty time, for example, than Verse ... why? He's put into OLBer group, not the DEs Both great athleteby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteden-the-coach The Rams finally hired a GM in Steve Ortmayer when they moved to St. Louis. Ortmayer hired Rich Brooks and then went with Lawrence Phillips & Eddie Kennison over Eddie George & Marvin Harrison. Just unbelievable. But hey, they draft got an "A"!!! Dave Razzano was the only scout who fought hard against Lawrence Phillips. No one would listen to him. Theyby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteroman18 So history is already in the books? These write ups are so effing stupid. So he was going to last till 45? And he knows this how? They traded a 2nd round pick in 2025.....I never knew a 2nd round pick was big a deal....they traded away a slew of 1st rounders in the past, but THIS 2nd rounder is a whopper! It's based on the assumption that you mention --he'd be there at 45, wby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
but if all goes well he'll be a backup on them rather than a starter. He's insurance now.by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
that are different from other charts. Some charts discount a selection from the next year to the end of the round. This on is 10% but assumes it's from the middle of the round. Have seen discounted by a full round. Yes, Rams overpaid as per the charts. One more sever than the others but for 2 of the three it's just a 4th to 5th. The other is higher ... and okay, they overpaid. Odds aby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Against Giants---they run a lot of heavy personnel Anyway, this week's game plan had Williams at a 5-tech more often than vs Det, for example Still, Donald the 3-tech Putting a 3-tech in place of Williams to play on a tackle, head up, shaded outside or shaded inside .... was not what Rams wanted to do, IMO so they trade up toe get a scheme fit...because there was no one else realby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
These are jus txamples, there are alwaysgoign to be plenty of exceptions but look where Williams is in the base or Penny fronts ... Rams tried or preferred Donald to be a 3-tech ... outside shoulder of the guard. Can't always happen but they like him at 3-tech (DT) and Williams at 4-tech (DE) .. sometimes Williams would in inside the OT and be a 4i tech Anyway, Newton? He's more of a 3-tby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsDynasty Thanks again Blood a different question, you knowing the Rams personnel so well, would the Rams be better served going to a 4-3 instead of a 3-4? I know each alignment has it's advantages but it seems and has for a long time that the Rams have more quality players on the DL than they do at linebacker, so wouldn't it make more sense to align your primary defense to have more quaby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram JY53 - I just saw that you posted this in another thread. I should know better than to post without reading the board first. That whole thread is great, btw. Thanks for culling all that info in one spot!! I did catch that when doing the UDFA stuff.... that he was a physical monster. I've never see him play so I don't know if he's may good but the first post I found he wasby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsDynasty I understand a player can be a better prospect but not the best fit. Is it a style/mesh thing that makes you like Fiske better?. Yes, that's my opinion. I think Fiske the better fit for what Rams have been doing. Obvoudolu I don't know who will be better I don't know exactly what Rams will do on defense. Shula and Snead have said several things, per Jourdan, though that leby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsDynasty I like the pairing up plan but don't see why Verse and Newton couldn't have worked in that way just as well as Fiske and Verse did. . And you are right -- no one knows who will be the better pro. But Newton and Turner are pretty similar IMO. Not exactly but closer to each other than Fiske and Turner. I think, and this is just my opinion, the loss of Donald caused them toby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRockRam Therefore, I suspect we will see an attempt to do something similar with Young and Turner to develop a chemistry. And, that the Rams will ask Young to play on the right instead of the left (from the O view) this coming season. With 2 rookies and 2 second year guys, this can happen and be useful for a few years. . Here you see that where guy lineup is not left or right, it's basby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci I feel like, with the PS rules, it gives guys incentive to stay and try to "mix in" rather than trying to just make a team and have all that pressure. Like I doubt Stoops makes the final 53 but I'd bet money he gets a shot returning punts during the regular season. but would be nice if this kid is anything like on film. I never know that kind of thing until preseby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedb I'm not saying their defensive sets/structure will change, but I can tell you for sure what specifically has been discussed in the building, which is in the past few years they spent a great deal of the defensive front game plan being around how to isolate Donald with 1 on1's. That was literally at the top of their game plan every week. That will necessarily change of course, and they bby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteScRAM Is that he's described as a bully, I like that in a player from all I can tell. I only brought it us because no one is perfect. And all the "Rams get an 'A'" grade ignores that there are issues with almost any drift pick an this year's draft is no exception and people are talking like all these picks are risk-free, no-brainers. Each have some sort of risk ... some lby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteramBRO It looks to me that the run on DT's actually started at pick 35 (Washington is already stacked at that position). Do you believe that T'vondre Sweat was ever an option for the Rams? Just recall the impact that Ashawn Robinson had on our defense during the Super Bowl run and thought that the coaching staff may have thought that he could duplicate that effort for us. Just wonderingby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemtramfan The questions and second-guesses (starting with Mel Kiper's) regarding "They paid too much - next year's second was more than they should have paid," are senseless at that point. . fby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci Same vision for him, just don't know how fast they make the moves ... I watched the guys last year, and there was one ILBer I'd hoped would beat out Hummel, but he didn't. This kid looks better than last year's model. If he's a year away, Curl can play the dime/money backer and the rookie safety can play deep.by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteDavid Deacon Here is what we do know. McSnead wanted Fiske and thought they had to give up next years 2nd rounder to get him. Now the question on why not one of this years 3rd rounders are would it have gotten the deal done or did they like who they could get in the 3rd Corum and prioritize it over next years 2nd round pick. It had to be one of those 2 things but not sure which one it wasby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamdemic I'm sorry,but I like Verse a lot more. Seems like a way better culture guy. Turner looked a bit small and kind of a d-bag. but we just disagree about peak value as a rusher and cover guy. Yeah, Turner is small, but he's faster and he's dropped If you don't like him, fine. I like both. One has more all around abilities the other has better array of pass rush moves, longer armsby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamdemic You want names, dates, SS #'s , I don't got em. Because you premised it on the cost being equal. I am just not aware of any situation like you are talking about. As far as those players I think they weighed options and brought back guys they thought would help them win and experience was part of it. But unless you know someone else they could have brought in for equal money --by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotealyoshamucci UDFA1) Omar Speights, LB, LSU I followed him from Oregon State, where I had a solid eye on him for his ability to play sideline to sideline. He's a classic chase and cover LB that can thump if given the opportunity. 30 reps is no joke. 4.62 is the going rate. He may not make the team off the bat, no need, he'll be there by the end of the year I'd wager. I only started loby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteXXXIVwin Rams' second round pick could be anywhere from 33 to 64. And how it is valued is from the next year to the current it it's either a 64 (the worst possible) or maybe given a round discount .. so if it's a middle 2nd then it's valued presently as a middle 3rd. the reality is it could be, like you say, a 33 if Rams have worst NFL record. I have seen it done both ways.by JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamdemic . What I was referring to was when the money is somewhat equal, the Rams go with known limited option instead of the unknown better upside option. Juts don't know what examples you are talking about ... I think they do their best to get the best players they can that fit into the budget. They don't seem to value ILBer as much as OLBer or other spots or they would have taken one tby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Rams had to move up to get him, no question. Only thing is how much, They had to give something, either a 3rd this year or a 2nd next year. Those two are close in value. I'd rather give up the 2 next year than the 3 this year. The overpayment is varying from the 3 charts anywhere from a 2nd to a 4th or 5th. What did Rams' DVC say? I don't think we know. Teams have modified ones that, as farby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotecool_hand_luke I care alot. But I'm interested in the value of the synergy of two close players from the same team. That synergy could be worth the extra two. Nfl games are won on big plays. If that synergy adds 2 big plays a game it is more than worth a 2nd or a first. I love this cutting edge strategy that they execute. Whether it works or not the process seems sound. and miss the biby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedb This draft (and recent free agency) indicates a couple of things - we are revamping how we approach our defensive front play. As Belichick said, "you earn the right to rush the passer by stopping the run". . I do see Rams trying to increase the athleticism up front. Fiske over Williams, Verse over Hoecht. Rams will still play gap-and-a-half up front---I don't see a chanby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com
Quote1st Rounder I'm glad that the Rams didn't wind up with Dallas Turner and preferred his teammate Chris Braswell. So getting Verse instead of Turner is a positive for me. don;t think we'll know for a year or tow. I see Turner as someone who will be elite pass rusher because he's got speed, moves, hand usage and very long arms Verse, I am happy with, but has shorter arms -- he playsby JimYoungblood53 - RamsFootballFans.com