May 28, 2021 10:16AM
Where we're close....I too think the Rams could very well have given up too much. In fact I lean that way. I don't think Stafford is a downgrade and at the same time I'm not at all convinced he's an upgrade.

Where we part: You're more of the mind that the only redemption is a SB Victory because it's the only thing Goff didn't accomplish. I see that gap between what Goff accomplished, (which was good), and winning a SB with very good to great QB play as gigantically wide compared to you. IOW... I think Stafford can be noticeably, statistically, in your face better, (possibility, not saying he will be), without a SB victory than Goff was without a SB Victory.

In the end it comes down to "was it worth it", even if Stafford is obviously better but fails to win a SB. If I'm reading you correctly it won't be for you. For me yes IF.... and this without a SB Victory, we are rock solid for the playoffs for the next 3 years or so... season's in which we are truly and indisputably one of the best in the NFL "EVEN IF" another team steps into the 'elite' category and we can't quite get by them.

I know the rebuttal... "That's what Goff already was".... I disagree with that. Goff was very good, IMHO... but also IMHO he cost us games, HIM... well, actually I think McVay as much to blame. - JamesJM
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  Seems nobody but a coupla' fans here are sold on Goff

RockRam889May 27, 2021 12:02PM

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moklerman258May 27, 2021 12:15PM

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droopy235May 27, 2021 12:22PM

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zn386May 27, 2021 01:05PM

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SoCalRAMatic274May 27, 2021 01:18PM

  +1

zn193May 27, 2021 02:23PM

  One thing Goff is not

waterfield366May 28, 2021 07:53AM

  Re: One thing Goff is not

moklerman194May 28, 2021 07:57AM

  Well there's been a lot of struggling, including McVay

PA48186May 29, 2021 02:59PM

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dzrams194May 28, 2021 08:46AM

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oldschoolramfan439May 28, 2021 09:14AM

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zn224May 28, 2021 09:29AM

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moklerman306May 28, 2021 10:02AM

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PA48220May 29, 2021 09:53AM

  I guess that's one way to look at NM

PHDram284May 27, 2021 01:52PM

  Goff was on the hot seat in 2020 & was traded. He could surprise

Anonymous User396May 27, 2021 02:10PM

  Re: Lion's WR and OL

Coy Bacon180May 28, 2021 02:17PM

  Re: Lion's WR and OL

moklerman216May 28, 2021 02:31PM

  Major League

BearlyThere179May 29, 2021 04:56AM

  Re: Lion's WR and OL

BearlyThere298May 28, 2021 03:52PM

  moving to right OT does not cause a "weakness"

zn252May 28, 2021 05:23PM

  Re: moving to right OT does not cause a "weakness"

Coy Bacon174May 29, 2021 04:36AM

  I'm inclined to take history over a rookie whining

zn199May 29, 2021 12:25PM

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  Re: Seems nobody but a coupla' fans here are sold on Goff

BearlyThere200May 27, 2021 06:20PM

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zn290May 28, 2021 12:14AM

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BearlyThere304May 28, 2021 07:35AM

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Coy Bacon170May 28, 2021 02:27PM

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BearlyThere159May 28, 2021 03:54PM

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Coy Bacon239May 28, 2021 04:28PM

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moklerman165May 28, 2021 04:30PM

  He needs a top run game

merlin201May 27, 2021 07:10PM

  Ironically I could see goff becoming more of an efficient QB

Ram_Ruler184May 27, 2021 09:22PM

  Too early for your victory lap yet. Let's see.

Saguaro283May 28, 2021 07:38AM

  One big area of disagreement...

JamesJM191May 28, 2021 10:16AM

  Great, balanced take

Ram49361May 28, 2021 11:19AM

  Re: One big area of disagreement...

zn170May 28, 2021 12:23PM

  Me too, I see where he's coming from quite easily....

JamesJM233May 28, 2021 12:44PM

  Re: Too early for your victory lap yet. Let's see.

Coy Bacon155May 28, 2021 02:30PM

  Goff is a journeyman QB with great accuracy

alyoshamucci212May 28, 2021 09:04AM

  Re: Goff is a journeyman QB with great accuracy

zn197May 28, 2021 10:14AM

  IMO the single biggest issue is not being able to operate in a muddled pocket

RockRam172May 29, 2021 03:26AM

  like many things with Goff this gets exaggerated

zn161May 29, 2021 10:28AM

  I probably should ignore you as click bait... but

RockRam175May 29, 2021 10:48AM

  Re: I probably should ignore you as click bait... but

moklerman159May 29, 2021 12:22PM

  why wouldn't the same argument apply to you? Why aren't YOU "click bait"

zn163May 29, 2021 01:26PM

  And something that magnifies this...

merlin169May 29, 2021 11:50AM

  Re: And something that magnifies this...

moklerman396May 29, 2021 12:31PM

  Re: And something that magnifies this...

zn237May 29, 2021 01:36PM

  Re: Goff is a journeyman QB with great accuracy

merlin200May 29, 2021 09:09AM

  Great guy and teammate

Stafford9185May 28, 2021 09:27AM

  Re: Great guy and teammate

Stafford9208May 29, 2021 03:13PM

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no name189May 28, 2021 09:57AM

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moklerman179May 28, 2021 10:04AM

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dzrams178May 28, 2021 11:04AM

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moklerman176May 28, 2021 11:16AM

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dzrams285May 28, 2021 12:08PM

  Re: Seems nobody but a coupla' fans here are sold on Goff

moklerman236May 28, 2021 02:10PM

  Re: Agree with this

Anonymous User395May 28, 2021 02:30PM

  Re: Agree with this

moklerman218May 28, 2021 02:41PM

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Anonymous User215May 28, 2021 03:28PM

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moklerman354May 28, 2021 03:35PM

  Re: Seems nobody but a coupla' fans here are sold on Goff

dzrams331May 28, 2021 09:33PM

  7th overall pick in 2020, 3rd in 2019 and 8th in 2018...

DaJudge229May 28, 2021 11:02AM