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Re: I say it's people not seeing things that are there

May 10, 2021 06:46PM
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ZN was a stalwart supporter of Goff. He doesn't want to be wrong. I get that.

But I'm with you man. Goff made his bed. And as the seasons move forward that will come into more and more focus.

It's bad posting to try and guess then slam someone's motives, Merlin. It's a way to not listen to people and in fact to dismiss them out of hand, without really hearing. It makes posting personal. Zn is this, Merlin is that, dismiss dismiss.

I supported Goff but I saw his flaws (his biggest was pressing to make plays when he shouldn't have). I am a supporter of McVay but I know a disconnect between coach and qb when I see it and not all of that was on the qb. (I think McV is the 2nd best coach the Rams have had since I started following them starting in the 70s--but I criticized Vermeil too, who I rank first, when I saw something to criticize. McV is not yet a mature coach in handling a team and certain players in all circumstances. I actually expect him to improve.)

I also know when a coach will benefit from a veteran qb. That's why I was fine with the trade from the start. I like Stafford for that very reason. He is going to help McV improve as a coach. (Unless, to use the other side of your double edged sword, you can't see that because you're such a blind follower of McVay you don't think he should improve. That's just a joke, but it serves a purpose. All motives dismissal arguments are double-edged.)

And if you don't agree it's because you're one of those types who eats ice cream for breakfast and that type is never right about anything. cool smiley (And yes that joke conveys exactly how I see the motives dismissal style of getting personal.)

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Fair 'nuff. What I meant was that nobody is going to change anyone's opinion on this, both of us have in fact tried. No offense intended there.

I just feel like the choice of McVay vs Goff is a very easy one. But let's wait and let time make that clear eh? beer cheer smiley
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  McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Rams43797May 10, 2021 07:07AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

SoCalRAMatic281May 10, 2021 07:26AM

  Re: EVERY team will run plays that were successful on another team...

oldschoolramfan292May 10, 2021 08:24AM

  Re: It's a 'collaboration’

dzrams328May 10, 2021 10:48AM

  Re: It's a 'collaboration’

oldschoolramfan167May 10, 2021 11:22AM

  it will change

zn285May 10, 2021 11:23AM

  Re: Didn't I say that?

dzrams284May 10, 2021 11:39AM

  and I in turn said THAT

zn200May 10, 2021 12:58PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn241May 10, 2021 09:31AM

  Horse manure.

RockRam256May 10, 2021 09:36AM

  Seeing what you want to see is what's occurring here

merlin226May 10, 2021 01:18PM

  I say it's people not seeing things that are there

zn425May 10, 2021 01:39PM

  Re: I say it's people not seeing things that are there

merlin183May 10, 2021 06:46PM

  Re: I say it's people not seeing things that are there

zn180May 10, 2021 07:13PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams312May 10, 2021 10:38AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn313May 10, 2021 11:15AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Speedball89263May 10, 2021 11:17AM

  nope, sorry

zn379May 10, 2021 11:26AM

  No offense guy

Speedball89302May 10, 2021 12:02PM

  it has been reported

zn169May 10, 2021 01:02PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams189May 10, 2021 11:38AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn170May 10, 2021 01:10PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams170May 10, 2021 01:19PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn162May 10, 2021 01:31PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams233May 10, 2021 01:34PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn221May 10, 2021 01:47PM

  Exactly. Good Post +1

Ram Fan Teacher428May 11, 2021 05:41AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Rams43182May 10, 2021 11:43AM

  To be fair...

Ram_Ruler360May 10, 2021 12:52PM

  Re: To be fair...

zn329May 10, 2021 01:05PM

  Apparently frustrations with Goff were very loud

Ram_Ruler285May 10, 2021 01:18PM

  Re: Apparently frustrations with Goff were very loud

zn223May 10, 2021 01:52PM

  it seems a bit disingenuous to say

PHDram159May 11, 2021 06:10AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

zn167May 11, 2021 07:04AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

PHDram233May 11, 2021 07:13AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

zn310May 11, 2021 06:27PM

  no argument is going to convince me

PHDram360May 11, 2021 06:42PM

  Re: no argument is going to convince me

zn178May 11, 2021 06:58PM

  Can't wait to see if Mcvay let's Stafford go

Ram_Ruler211May 10, 2021 12:50PM

  Re: Can't wait to see if Mcvay let's Stafford go

zn437May 10, 2021 02:01PM