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Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

May 10, 2021 01:31PM
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dzrams
That there was some type of disconnect or communication issue isn't where I have a problem. It's assuming that the "disconnect" means that McVay wasn't listening or was dictating to Goff. There are NO reports on those two specific issues so to be honest that's speculative. An assumption. Guessing. Using your senses, which may or may not be accurate, to interpret. And that's not meant to be an insult. It's just that your opinion lacks concrete evidence. Sorry...

So as I stated earlier, we can agree to disagree. I've heard enough to know where you're coming from.

It's assuming a lot of things so don't try to mindread. If I did not directly say something, do not put the words in my mouth.

PART OF the lack of communication and disconnect is that Goff was just supposed to do what he was told. Where anywhere at any time ever did you get a different message on that. You don't go to the press and say "the qb ain't doing what he's supposed to" when you are the qb coach--if you are the qb coach you are supposed to say, what are you seeing and why. And then adapt to it.

It includes the entire "15 seconds in his ear" thing. When he got Goff, Goff was not very experienced, so he dictated.

When the qb and the coach are seeing different things on offense, it's the coach who is supposed to fix that.

The entire confessional thing McV got into after the trade and he had a long talk with Goff conveyed that. He got impatient with a young qb and did not sit down and fix things, he just blamed the qb.

Heck even I heard the reason for the big turnover games and McV never did. Goff had multiple turnover games when he was pressing to make plays. You can coach a guy out of that--Warner was doing the exact same thing in New York and of course Warner unlearned that or Arizona never would have gone anywhere with Warner.

It's all there, right in front of us, AND will all be very very different with Stafford.

Please don't be one of those guys who just kneejerk defends the head coach no matter what. I think Vermeil was the best head coach the Rams have had since I started following them, and when it was warranted, I criticized Vermeil too. I am an equal opportunity realist.

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  McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Rams43796May 10, 2021 07:07AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

SoCalRAMatic281May 10, 2021 07:26AM

  Re: EVERY team will run plays that were successful on another team...

oldschoolramfan292May 10, 2021 08:24AM

  Re: It's a 'collaboration’

dzrams328May 10, 2021 10:48AM

  Re: It's a 'collaboration’

oldschoolramfan166May 10, 2021 11:22AM

  it will change

zn284May 10, 2021 11:23AM

  Re: Didn't I say that?

dzrams284May 10, 2021 11:39AM

  and I in turn said THAT

zn199May 10, 2021 12:58PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn241May 10, 2021 09:31AM

  Horse manure.

RockRam256May 10, 2021 09:36AM

  Seeing what you want to see is what's occurring here

merlin226May 10, 2021 01:18PM

  I say it's people not seeing things that are there

zn424May 10, 2021 01:39PM

  Re: I say it's people not seeing things that are there

merlin183May 10, 2021 06:46PM

  Re: I say it's people not seeing things that are there

zn179May 10, 2021 07:13PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams312May 10, 2021 10:38AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn313May 10, 2021 11:15AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Speedball89262May 10, 2021 11:17AM

  nope, sorry

zn378May 10, 2021 11:26AM

  No offense guy

Speedball89302May 10, 2021 12:02PM

  it has been reported

zn169May 10, 2021 01:02PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams189May 10, 2021 11:38AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn170May 10, 2021 01:10PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams170May 10, 2021 01:19PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn161May 10, 2021 01:31PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams233May 10, 2021 01:34PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn220May 10, 2021 01:47PM

  Exactly. Good Post +1

Ram Fan Teacher428May 11, 2021 05:41AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Rams43182May 10, 2021 11:43AM

  To be fair...

Ram_Ruler360May 10, 2021 12:52PM

  Re: To be fair...

zn328May 10, 2021 01:05PM

  Apparently frustrations with Goff were very loud

Ram_Ruler284May 10, 2021 01:18PM

  Re: Apparently frustrations with Goff were very loud

zn223May 10, 2021 01:52PM

  it seems a bit disingenuous to say

PHDram159May 11, 2021 06:10AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

zn166May 11, 2021 07:04AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

PHDram233May 11, 2021 07:13AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

zn310May 11, 2021 06:27PM

  no argument is going to convince me

PHDram360May 11, 2021 06:42PM

  Re: no argument is going to convince me

zn177May 11, 2021 06:58PM

  Can't wait to see if Mcvay let's Stafford go

Ram_Ruler210May 10, 2021 12:50PM

  Re: Can't wait to see if Mcvay let's Stafford go

zn436May 10, 2021 02:01PM