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Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

May 10, 2021 11:43AM
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He listens to Stafford, which will help McVay grow. He dictated to Goff in ways that did not help Goff grow (and then blamed Goff). ...

I've seen you make the above two assertions many times. That he didn't listen to Goff and he dictated to Goff. But I've never known where you got that from. What do you base that on?


Everything we ever heard up to and including the fact that at the end of the season, Goff said he had no idea that McV was opening up the qb position. That is complete lack of communication. Plus the fact that the Rams took the disconnect between coach and qb as "lack of player evolution." In 2020 McV was openly disdainful discussing the qb. You do not do that with a qb you're actually communicating with.

Before McV openly said there were communication issues, and Thirry demonstrated it, I was also told that I got the fact that they had communication issues from nowhere.

It's not hard to see these things. Honestly. They're right there right in front of us.

Stafford will be good for McV. That's one of the reasons why I never protested the trade. (Even though some less than insightful people went around saying any criticism of McV was just bitterness over Goff. That's what happens when you DON'T see or listen.)

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Lot of opinion there, and a bit light on hard facts, zn.

I don’t want to start a prairie fire or a death match here, but I, too, have seen you state things on this topic that are really more opinion than fact.

For example, ‘Goff said that he had no idea that McVay was opening up the QB position’? Does that statement seem remotely credible to you? I mean, it suggests a lack of situational awareness on Goff’s part that is breathtaking. EVERYBODY and their brother knew that there were fractures and issues between the two of them.

Another thing, ‘lack of communication’ is a 2-way street, not always the fault of the HC. The issues that arose imply that Goff was doing his fair share of non-communication at the very least.

As to McVay being disdainful of Goff? Other than the one presser where McVay said ‘our QB has to do a better job of taking care of the ball’ (A rather obvious thing at the time and very appropriate) and the ‘our QB right now’ comment in the post season final presser, where was McVay being publicly non-supportive? Heck, I thought he bent over backwards to publicly support his QB.

After the trade when McVay was saying that he could have ‘done a better job of communicating’ I took that as polite coachspeak, a McVay trademark.
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  McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Rams43797May 10, 2021 07:07AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

SoCalRAMatic281May 10, 2021 07:26AM

  Re: EVERY team will run plays that were successful on another team...

oldschoolramfan292May 10, 2021 08:24AM

  Re: It's a 'collaboration’

dzrams328May 10, 2021 10:48AM

  Re: It's a 'collaboration’

oldschoolramfan167May 10, 2021 11:22AM

  it will change

zn285May 10, 2021 11:23AM

  Re: Didn't I say that?

dzrams284May 10, 2021 11:39AM

  and I in turn said THAT

zn200May 10, 2021 12:58PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn241May 10, 2021 09:31AM

  Horse manure.

RockRam256May 10, 2021 09:36AM

  Seeing what you want to see is what's occurring here

merlin226May 10, 2021 01:18PM

  I say it's people not seeing things that are there

zn425May 10, 2021 01:39PM

  Re: I say it's people not seeing things that are there

merlin184May 10, 2021 06:46PM

  Re: I say it's people not seeing things that are there

zn180May 10, 2021 07:13PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams312May 10, 2021 10:38AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn313May 10, 2021 11:15AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Speedball89263May 10, 2021 11:17AM

  nope, sorry

zn379May 10, 2021 11:26AM

  No offense guy

Speedball89302May 10, 2021 12:02PM

  it has been reported

zn169May 10, 2021 01:02PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

dzrams189May 10, 2021 11:38AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn170May 10, 2021 01:10PM

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dzrams170May 10, 2021 01:19PM

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zn162May 10, 2021 01:31PM

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dzrams233May 10, 2021 01:34PM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

zn221May 10, 2021 01:47PM

  Exactly. Good Post +1

Ram Fan Teacher428May 11, 2021 05:41AM

  Re: McVay on working with Stafford: ‘Really been a great collaboration’...

Rams43182May 10, 2021 11:43AM

  To be fair...

Ram_Ruler360May 10, 2021 12:52PM

  Re: To be fair...

zn329May 10, 2021 01:05PM

  Apparently frustrations with Goff were very loud

Ram_Ruler285May 10, 2021 01:18PM

  Re: Apparently frustrations with Goff were very loud

zn223May 10, 2021 01:52PM

  it seems a bit disingenuous to say

PHDram159May 11, 2021 06:10AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

zn167May 11, 2021 07:04AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

PHDram233May 11, 2021 07:13AM

  Re: it seems a bit disingenuous to say

zn310May 11, 2021 06:27PM

  no argument is going to convince me

PHDram360May 11, 2021 06:42PM

  Re: no argument is going to convince me

zn178May 11, 2021 06:58PM

  Can't wait to see if Mcvay let's Stafford go

Ram_Ruler211May 10, 2021 12:50PM

  Re: Can't wait to see if Mcvay let's Stafford go

zn437May 10, 2021 02:01PM