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Re: Subjective vs. Objective

July 21, 2021 03:36PM
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dzrams
If you're basing your assessment of a player primarily on what your eyes see you are being subjective by definition..

With all due respect I have to disagree with that. It's what scouting teaches us constantly. You can see key traits on the field. They count in an assessment. Otherwise you are running blind.

Let me give you an example. People don't remember this but when Faulk got traded to the Rams and then held out, there was a bit of a backlash. One of the things said was that Faulk was just this finesse speed back and could not run up the middle. Even some national press people said that. The ideal back then was the heavier guys like Duce Staley, Ricky Watters, Eddie George, and Bettis. Even Emmit Smith was around 219.

A lot of us said, no Faulk can run up the middle. He does it with vision and a very highly skilled ability to maneuver in traffic. He just avoids the direct hit and weaves his way through. I have to tell you, for some people, this was just fancy wishful thinking and had nothing to do with how backs really operated in the NFL.

And of course--Faulk was exactly as described. The way we were putting it then was that he had micro-gears within gears and could genuinely maneuver in traffic at a level far superior to anyone else. It got driven home as we saw slo-mo replay after slo-mo replay. Things that were simply not visible as you watched the original play showed up in the replays and you could see the multiple micro-hesitations and micro-bursts and micro-shifts.

Seeing and describing that skill is very much part of objective assessment.



SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Size

SoCalRAMatic776July 20, 2021 09:51AM

  No diss on size he's big enough

alyoshamucci262July 20, 2021 09:55AM

  All the more reason to bring in a guy like Peterson...

roman18198July 20, 2021 10:20AM

  Re: Size

3030234July 20, 2021 10:01AM

  Re: Size

HornsUpRamily!152July 20, 2021 10:04AM

  He has shown he can't do the job

merlin235July 20, 2021 10:10AM

  Re: He has shown he can't do the job

dzrams169July 20, 2021 10:27AM

  Re: He has shown he can't do the job Attachments

AlbaNY_Ram175July 20, 2021 10:40AM

  Re: He has shown he can't do the job

dzrams271July 20, 2021 10:49AM

  I base what I say here

merlin144July 20, 2021 12:26PM

  Re: I base what I say here

dzrams135July 20, 2021 01:11PM

  Re: I base what I say here

SoCalRAMatic128July 20, 2021 01:25PM

  Re: I base what I say here

zn131July 20, 2021 08:03PM

  Agree: Akers is superb at making something out of nothing

BC Ramsfan121July 20, 2021 08:26PM

  Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

merlin207July 20, 2021 07:12PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

dzrams124July 20, 2021 07:36PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

zn153July 20, 2021 07:57PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

dzrams124July 20, 2021 08:07PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

zn122July 20, 2021 09:17PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

dzrams135July 20, 2021 10:10PM

  no this is objective

zn276July 20, 2021 10:21PM

  Re: no this is objective

dzrams120July 21, 2021 11:23AM

  Re: no this is objective

zn130July 21, 2021 11:45AM

  Re: no this is objective

AlbaNY_Ram108July 21, 2021 11:51AM

  Re: no this is objective

zn127July 21, 2021 12:13PM

  Subjective vs. Objective

moklerman114July 21, 2021 12:58PM

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dzrams114July 21, 2021 01:20PM

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zn156July 21, 2021 01:39PM

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moklerman109July 21, 2021 01:58PM

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dzrams143July 21, 2021 02:02PM

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zn147July 21, 2021 03:36PM

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moklerman107July 21, 2021 04:19PM

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moklerman131July 21, 2021 01:42PM

  Re: Subjective vs. Objective

dzrams124July 21, 2021 01:51PM

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moklerman144July 21, 2021 02:02PM

  agree

zn104July 21, 2021 03:18PM

  Re: no this is objective

AlbaNY_Ram89July 21, 2021 04:41PM

  Re: no this is objective

zn120July 21, 2021 08:25PM

  Re: no this is objective

dzrams169July 21, 2021 11:55AM

  Re: no this is objective

zn118July 21, 2021 10:00PM

  Re: Well this is a turn...!

dzrams159July 21, 2021 10:41PM

  c'mon

zn220July 21, 2021 11:52PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

merlin131July 21, 2021 11:01AM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

dzrams127July 21, 2021 11:26AM

  I completely agree

zn147July 20, 2021 06:20PM

  Re: I completely agree

merlin108July 20, 2021 07:15PM

  Re: I completely agree

oldschoolramfan111July 21, 2021 08:16AM

  Re: I completely agree

Rams43114July 21, 2021 09:07AM

  Re: I completely agree

zn111July 21, 2021 11:42AM

  Now that's more like it....

RAMbler344July 20, 2021 10:54AM

  Henderson has 1 issue

socalmab197July 20, 2021 12:32PM

  Re: Henderson has 1 issue

zn95July 20, 2021 06:50PM

  Re: Henderson has 1 issue

socalmab197July 20, 2021 07:03PM

  Re: Now that's more like it....

zn115July 20, 2021 06:47PM

  Re: He has shown he can't do the job

moklerman203July 21, 2021 12:37PM

  Re: Size

Classicalwit328July 20, 2021 10:59AM

  you're been wrong about that before & you are wrong about that now

zn191July 21, 2021 12:25PM

  SIZE SCHMIZE!! Can they play football??

Ramgator114July 21, 2021 03:56AM

  vid: good analysis of Akers

zn100July 21, 2021 06:00PM