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Re: no this is objective

July 21, 2021 11:45AM
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Of course, this is an issue of what one thinks. Almost everything is and no one's opinion is gospel. It's interesting that you would try to paint it as that. Your opinion is noted. We disagree. I'm willing to go on record that we'll still have a top running attack. Good discussion!

Akers has more in his arsenal as a back than Henderson does. It's just there. It's visible.

Same with Gurley compared to Jackson. Gurley had more in his arsenal (before the knee).

Same with Faulk and Dickerson compared to Gurley. And of course quite visibly, Faulk and Dickerson were very different.

None of which makes Jackson a bad back. In fact Jackson's strengths allowed him to be productive in many bad seasons when he had no OL much of the time. But Gurley still had more in his arsenal as a back than SJ did.

Same with Akers and Henderson.

I hear you but it still seems to me that you're mixing up opinion with fact. What's visible to one may not be visible to another. Happens everyday. But we'll have to wait and see how things turn out.

I'm still willing to go on record that we'll have a top running attack even without Akers. IMO, it's the scheme and the OL that are largely responsible for that. McVay hasn't played one RB since he's been coach that hasn't been effective. Even Brown produced when he got starts.

Well I don't know what to say about that because to me everything I state is obvious, visible, and clear when you actually watch them. It's not an "opinion" that Akers has excellent lateral quickness and very shifty feet in traffic and that it makes him much more elusive than the relatively more straight-line runner Henderson is.

I mean if someone can;t see that they can't see it, but it;s there. To me you're misusing numbers to erase obvious differences between the 2 backs. I never base an assessment on numbers alone. IMO looking at numbers alone is always misleading.

Plus you need to respond to what is actually being said. No one anywhere is arguing they won't be effective running the ball. You come across as arguing wiht someone who says that...but I don't see anyone saying that, let alone me.

Though given that, yes as an individual player Henderson has not been effective at times. In this case the numbers match what we saw in several games. In 2020 he has 4 games where he carries at least 8 times but is below 3 yards a carry (3 yards a carry itself being pretty bad). He in unproductive in 4 other games largely because of not getting carries for whatever reason including injuries.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/21/2021 12:00PM by zn.
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  Size

SoCalRAMatic814July 20, 2021 09:51AM

  No diss on size he's big enough

alyoshamucci272July 20, 2021 09:55AM

  All the more reason to bring in a guy like Peterson...

roman18228July 20, 2021 10:20AM

  Re: Size

3030242July 20, 2021 10:01AM

  Re: Size

HornsUpRamily!194July 20, 2021 10:04AM

  He has shown he can't do the job

merlin240July 20, 2021 10:10AM

  Re: He has shown he can't do the job

dzrams174July 20, 2021 10:27AM

  Re: He has shown he can't do the job Attachments

AlbaNY_Ram179July 20, 2021 10:40AM

  Re: He has shown he can't do the job

dzrams301July 20, 2021 10:49AM

  I base what I say here

merlin175July 20, 2021 12:26PM

  Re: I base what I say here

dzrams141July 20, 2021 01:11PM

  Re: I base what I say here

SoCalRAMatic154July 20, 2021 01:25PM

  Re: I base what I say here

zn172July 20, 2021 08:03PM

  Agree: Akers is superb at making something out of nothing

BC Ramsfan150July 20, 2021 08:26PM

  Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

merlin213July 20, 2021 07:12PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

dzrams129July 20, 2021 07:36PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

zn200July 20, 2021 07:57PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

dzrams128July 20, 2021 08:07PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

zn149July 20, 2021 09:17PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

dzrams143July 20, 2021 10:10PM

  no this is objective

zn292July 20, 2021 10:21PM

  Re: no this is objective

dzrams144July 21, 2021 11:23AM

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zn168July 21, 2021 11:45AM

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AlbaNY_Ram115July 21, 2021 11:51AM

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zn151July 21, 2021 12:13PM

  Subjective vs. Objective

moklerman139July 21, 2021 12:58PM

  Re: Subjective vs. Objective

dzrams119July 21, 2021 01:20PM

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zn161July 21, 2021 01:39PM

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moklerman115July 21, 2021 01:58PM

  Re: Subjective vs. Objective

dzrams168July 21, 2021 02:02PM

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zn188July 21, 2021 03:36PM

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moklerman114July 21, 2021 04:19PM

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moklerman151July 21, 2021 01:42PM

  Re: Subjective vs. Objective

dzrams168July 21, 2021 01:51PM

  Re: Subjective vs. Objective

moklerman150July 21, 2021 02:02PM

  agree

zn112July 21, 2021 03:18PM

  Re: no this is objective

AlbaNY_Ram100July 21, 2021 04:41PM

  Re: no this is objective

zn142July 21, 2021 08:25PM

  Re: no this is objective

dzrams187July 21, 2021 11:55AM

  Re: no this is objective

zn147July 21, 2021 10:00PM

  Re: Well this is a turn...!

dzrams181July 21, 2021 10:41PM

  c'mon

zn230July 21, 2021 11:52PM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

merlin137July 21, 2021 11:01AM

  Re: Yes DZ but Success Rate doesn't tell this entire story

dzrams133July 21, 2021 11:26AM

  I completely agree

zn154July 20, 2021 06:20PM

  Re: I completely agree

merlin134July 20, 2021 07:15PM

  Re: I completely agree

oldschoolramfan170July 21, 2021 08:16AM

  Re: I completely agree

Rams43146July 21, 2021 09:07AM

  Re: I completely agree

zn143July 21, 2021 11:42AM

  Now that's more like it....

RAMbler380July 20, 2021 10:54AM

  Henderson has 1 issue

socalmab205July 20, 2021 12:32PM

  Re: Henderson has 1 issue

zn100July 20, 2021 06:50PM

  Re: Henderson has 1 issue

socalmab204July 20, 2021 07:03PM

  Re: Now that's more like it....

zn141July 20, 2021 06:47PM

  Re: He has shown he can't do the job

moklerman206July 21, 2021 12:37PM

  Re: Size

Classicalwit335July 20, 2021 10:59AM

  you're been wrong about that before & you are wrong about that now

zn236July 21, 2021 12:25PM

  SIZE SCHMIZE!! Can they play football??

Ramgator121July 21, 2021 03:56AM

  vid: good analysis of Akers

zn120July 21, 2021 06:00PM