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Re: wish Goff would show more consistency...

August 30, 2020 12:36PM
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dzrams

There are some metrics that indicate that Goff drops off more than most starting QBs under pressure.

And I have some hesitancy when it comes to just accepting that. I don't think it's that simple. Either way, I don't think that "drops off more" argument applies the same to 2019, where he had (it looks like) more pressure and though he struggled with it some actually did better overall with that than in 2017 and 2018. So as I said before, when it comes to just 2019, I have seen him ranked 12th and 13th by different sites for his passing under pressure, and given the circumstances, that's not bad. I think he had to fight through things and adapt in 2019, and in many ways he did.

Plus it depends on what you mean. Throughout 2019 Goff stood in there, he himself by his actions helped reduce sacks even though the OL was struggling and even though he was first in the league in attempts (and with a running game everyone knew was no longer a threat). He was always tough, always had his eyes down field, never once complained, and battled it out. If a qb is first in the league in attempts, then, he is one of the reasons they were 9-7 under somewhat broken conditions (as opposed to having a losing season).

Yet at the same time he regressed from 2017 and 2018 statistically, which means his accuracy and TD percentage declined some. The fumble streak didn't help but that got under control in the last third of the season. Anyway that kind of down bump is what I always say happens with qbs who are behind struggling OLs (though as always it's possible to name a couple of exceptions to that). In a different post I looked at 2 other qbs who had OL issues in 2019--Rivers and Ryan. If you compare their 2018 qb ratings to their 2019 ratings, you see a regression dip that is very much like Goff's in 2019 compared to 2018.

I don't know what will happen this year since as we know the qb guru types are saying you have to expect OLs to be out of sync this year, given the lack of preparation that is unique to 2020. They are actually working on expecting that. Will that make a difference? How much of one? Plus of course they intend to get the run game cranked back up.



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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 08/30/2020 12:46PM by zn.
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  Jourdan Rodrigue excels at this kind of tweet

JimYoungblood531038August 29, 2020 12:40PM

  Re: Jourdan Rodrigue excels at this kind of tweet

JimYoungblood53564August 29, 2020 12:42PM

  wish Goff would show more consistency...

max395August 29, 2020 01:50PM

  yeah, at least since that KC game

JimYoungblood53325August 29, 2020 02:26PM

  Are you responding to the scrimmage today?

Suh-weet!298August 29, 2020 04:31PM

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zn311August 29, 2020 05:02PM

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max227August 30, 2020 07:10AM

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zn364August 30, 2020 08:41AM

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max213August 30, 2020 10:53AM

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zn175August 30, 2020 11:46AM

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dzrams195August 30, 2020 12:13PM

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zn192August 30, 2020 12:36PM

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dzrams177August 31, 2020 07:32AM

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zn155August 31, 2020 08:17AM

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max174August 30, 2020 12:51PM

  THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

SunTzu_vs_Camus307August 30, 2020 08:15PM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

max427August 30, 2020 11:51PM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

AlbaNY_Ram171August 31, 2020 04:48AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

zn192August 31, 2020 05:59AM

  here's that ailment again

zn155August 31, 2020 06:33AM

  Re: here's that ailment again

max188August 31, 2020 07:20AM

  Re: here's that ailment again

JimYoungblood53184August 31, 2020 07:30AM

  Re: here's that ailment again

zn160August 31, 2020 12:29PM

  Re: here's that ailment again

max162September 01, 2020 01:10AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

dzrams327August 31, 2020 07:43AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

zn189August 31, 2020 08:13AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

dzrams165August 31, 2020 08:28AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

zn273August 31, 2020 09:03AM

  here they are and I misremembered

zn188August 31, 2020 09:08AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

dzrams242August 31, 2020 08:49PM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

zn159September 01, 2020 04:43AM

  Wish Goff would show more consistency...Not on board with this

Anonymous User277August 30, 2020 02:20PM

  plus 1 buddy

ferragamo79196August 30, 2020 02:37PM

  Mahomes is 24 (nm)

Suh-weet!218August 30, 2020 02:52PM

  Mahomes is special

ferragamo79212August 30, 2020 04:07PM

  Re: Mahomes is special

moklerman181August 31, 2020 07:20PM

  Re: Wish Goff would show more consistency...Not on board with this Attachments

JimYoungblood53269August 31, 2020 07:38AM

  no running game

ferragamo79362August 31, 2020 09:02AM

  agree

JimYoungblood53164August 31, 2020 09:23AM

  a lot of misunderstandings in this thread

zn174August 31, 2020 07:59PM

  Re: a lot of misunderstandings in this thread

moklerman173August 31, 2020 08:15PM

  I like Goff---but you are correct

JimYoungblood53170August 31, 2020 07:02AM

  Re: wish Goff would show more consistency...

NorCalRamFan191August 31, 2020 11:36AM

  Well, what we know for sure...is that Goff can get us to the SB....

SunTzu_vs_Camus236August 31, 2020 08:01AM

  two guys I'd like to see Jourdan discuss specifically

LMU93172August 31, 2020 10:00AM

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RantoulRam264August 31, 2020 11:55AM

  it’s crazy the conversation that is happening in the middle of this thread

Speed_Kills204August 31, 2020 11:59AM

  Re: it’s crazy the conversation that is happening in the middle of this thread

zn181August 31, 2020 12:16PM

  Re: it’s crazy the conversation that is happening in the middle of this thread

moklerman182August 31, 2020 07:29PM

  Re: I mostly agree

Speed_Kills211September 01, 2020 04:42PM

  Re: I mostly agree

moklerman163September 02, 2020 07:00AM

  yup lol nm

Speed_Kills170September 02, 2020 09:13AM