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Re: wish Goff would show more consistency...

August 30, 2020 08:41AM
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Goff seems to be a streaky player.

Plays great for spells, then come the clunkers. I wish I had more confidence that he would take that next step and be consistent. I fear he is what we've seen.

I don't have much faith in this OL, so that muddies things. Still, Goff has got to be more consistent if this team is gonna go back to the big dance.

And strangely, the clunky moments seem to coincide with the OL unravelling. Like the 2nd half of 2018, when Sullivan declined, Blythe was exposed, and Hav stepped back a bit.

And of course what happened in 2019.

It's so odd that both things would happen at the same time.

Almost as if they were. Connected.

I get it. And yes there is a connection. Thing is, it is quite apparent that Goff is much worse than other quality QBs under pressure. Thats the book on Goff right now. He is great at staying healthy. And part of that is bailing out early and protecting himself even if it means a bad play.

Just go back to the Steelers game. They threw the kitchen sink at him and he folded like a cheap wallet.

Right now, that's what we got. A QB who folds like a cheap wallet against top defenses. And the most concerning thing is I don't think our OL is gonna be good enough this year, especially early on, to prevent that.

Well I have problems with that take. First he doesn't fold, let alone against all top defenses. He was pretty harassed last year and hung in there looking downfield all season. In contrast I have seen Rams pressure get to guys like Brees and Mahomes--Mahomes had two chances to tie or win the 2018 game in the final minutes and ended up throwing 2 INTs...to my eye, because Rams pressure had been getting to him all game.

And in fact when it comes to the widely touted "bad under pressure" stats, he improved at that in 2019, actually. I have seen him ranked either 12th or 13th under pressure for last season, and with the sudden disappearance of the running game and the general OL struggles, that's pretty good, considering.

He did regress in 2019 because it's hard to play behind an OL that is that unsettled (and as you know very few qbs ever do). But then when the OL got a bit better in the final games all of his numbers went up.

In terms of top defenses--in 2017 & 2018 combined, the Rams played 10 top 10 defenses, and were 7-3 against them. But then they could run and didn't start out the season with huge OL stability issues. In 2019, they played 5 top 10 defenses, and went 1-4. Looking at the differences between 2017-2018 and 2019, does that really look like the issue is the qb? Or is 2019 the qb in a bad situation--a kind of situation where few if any qbs do not regress a bit.


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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/30/2020 08:43AM by zn.
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  Jourdan Rodrigue excels at this kind of tweet

JimYoungblood531042August 29, 2020 12:40PM

  Re: Jourdan Rodrigue excels at this kind of tweet

JimYoungblood53566August 29, 2020 12:42PM

  wish Goff would show more consistency...

max396August 29, 2020 01:50PM

  yeah, at least since that KC game

JimYoungblood53326August 29, 2020 02:26PM

  Are you responding to the scrimmage today?

Suh-weet!300August 29, 2020 04:31PM

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zn313August 29, 2020 05:02PM

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max229August 30, 2020 07:10AM

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zn364August 30, 2020 08:41AM

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max214August 30, 2020 10:53AM

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zn175August 30, 2020 11:46AM

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dzrams195August 30, 2020 12:13PM

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zn193August 30, 2020 12:36PM

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dzrams178August 31, 2020 07:32AM

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zn157August 31, 2020 08:17AM

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max174August 30, 2020 12:51PM

  THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

SunTzu_vs_Camus307August 30, 2020 08:15PM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

max427August 30, 2020 11:51PM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

AlbaNY_Ram172August 31, 2020 04:48AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

zn192August 31, 2020 05:59AM

  here's that ailment again

zn155August 31, 2020 06:33AM

  Re: here's that ailment again

max189August 31, 2020 07:20AM

  Re: here's that ailment again

JimYoungblood53184August 31, 2020 07:30AM

  Re: here's that ailment again

zn161August 31, 2020 12:29PM

  Re: here's that ailment again

max163September 01, 2020 01:10AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

dzrams329August 31, 2020 07:43AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

zn190August 31, 2020 08:13AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

dzrams166August 31, 2020 08:28AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

zn274August 31, 2020 09:03AM

  here they are and I misremembered

zn191August 31, 2020 09:08AM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

dzrams242August 31, 2020 08:49PM

  Re: THIS: "The point was that even the best NFL QBs succumb to pressure."

zn161September 01, 2020 04:43AM

  Wish Goff would show more consistency...Not on board with this

Anonymous User280August 30, 2020 02:20PM

  plus 1 buddy

ferragamo79196August 30, 2020 02:37PM

  Mahomes is 24 (nm)

Suh-weet!218August 30, 2020 02:52PM

  Mahomes is special

ferragamo79212August 30, 2020 04:07PM

  Re: Mahomes is special

moklerman182August 31, 2020 07:20PM

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JimYoungblood53270August 31, 2020 07:38AM

  no running game

ferragamo79363August 31, 2020 09:02AM

  agree

JimYoungblood53165August 31, 2020 09:23AM

  a lot of misunderstandings in this thread

zn174August 31, 2020 07:59PM

  Re: a lot of misunderstandings in this thread

moklerman174August 31, 2020 08:15PM

  I like Goff---but you are correct

JimYoungblood53170August 31, 2020 07:02AM

  Re: wish Goff would show more consistency...

NorCalRamFan192August 31, 2020 11:36AM

  Well, what we know for sure...is that Goff can get us to the SB....

SunTzu_vs_Camus237August 31, 2020 08:01AM

  two guys I'd like to see Jourdan discuss specifically

LMU93172August 31, 2020 10:00AM

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RantoulRam266August 31, 2020 11:55AM

  it’s crazy the conversation that is happening in the middle of this thread

Speed_Kills205August 31, 2020 11:59AM

  Re: it’s crazy the conversation that is happening in the middle of this thread

zn181August 31, 2020 12:16PM

  Re: it’s crazy the conversation that is happening in the middle of this thread

moklerman183August 31, 2020 07:29PM

  Re: I mostly agree

Speed_Kills212September 01, 2020 04:42PM

  Re: I mostly agree

moklerman163September 02, 2020 07:00AM

  yup lol nm

Speed_Kills171September 02, 2020 09:13AM