QuoteSaguaro Oakland has averaged much higher in points scored than they did against the Rams. Cards are somewhat hapless, but they have scored against other teams, when they didn't against LA. Chargers? Same story, better scoring against their other opponents than against the Rams. I just can't go with the analysis that the offense is going to have to always score 30+ because our defenby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRampage2K- Quotezn Quotedzrams QuoteRamgator It's crazy to bank on an Offense scoring 30 + every time. They are 5th in points allowed per game at 16.8. So far the offense only needs to score 30 against a top notch opposing offense. How tight do you require the D to be? I think raw averages are deceptive. The first 2 opponents were bad on offense. Last 2 games they allowed 27by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotedzrams QuoteRamgator It's crazy to bank on an Offense scoring 30 + every time. They are 5th in points allowed per game at 16.8. So far the offense only needs to score 30 against a top notch opposing offense. How tight do you require the D to be? I think raw averages are deceptive. The first 2 opponents were bad on offense. Last 2 games they allowed 27 points a game which is 2by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewv ram Quotezn Quotewv ram Quotezn In terms of describing Wms defense, you just described Wade's Rams defense too. And I like Wade. I think he's one of the 2-3 best DCs in the game. But he has some personnel issues at the moment. So did Wms. I honestly don't believe there are waterproof black n white narratives for any of this. (I also believe it's okay to use mixed metaphors.)by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quoteferragamo79 just sayin The Rams drafts worked through consensus and the in that situation, just like now, the GM works hard on finding the kind of player the coach wants. Fisher had the final say in drafts, but they would set the board through discussion and consensus and stick to the board on draft day. As head coach Fisher would have a lot of weight on who got picked higher in the draft,by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSaguaro and now you're posting that they won't be able to keep teams under 30 pts? I think that's making way too much of one performance on a short week. Sag, though, the numbers were distorted by playing 2 very inferior opponents, who were not equipped to keep up with the Rams when getting outscored. SD and Minn were. So in fact if you divide it into 2 sets of games, in the 2nd set theby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemoklerman Quotezn Quotemoklerman Quotemax QuoteJamesJM not because I think it 'unworthy'... it most certainly is... but rather because I don't really see one as definitively better than the other. They are different.. true... and I think either style can work in the NFL. Yes, Wentz's style does probably mean more risk. At the combine I thought Wentz won hand's down... and was all for Wby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemoklerman Quotemax QuoteJamesJM not because I think it 'unworthy'... it most certainly is... but rather because I don't really see one as definitively better than the other. They are different.. true... and I think either style can work in the NFL. Yes, Wentz's style does probably mean more risk. At the combine I thought Wentz won hand's down... and was all for Wentz up until this boarby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuotePaulButcher59 PLEASE STOP!!!! Well...no. B) Though if you want, for all the good it does, keep saying "please stop." Or, consider living with differences of opinion on this. Truth is? I've heard all that---your argument, and more. Those on my side have answered it all before. There are a lot of assumptions and corner cutting that go into hyperbolic claims as categorical aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteJamesJM isn't that precisely the situation in which you would occasionally take the shot believing it's the last thing a D would expect? (with the exception of some type of trick play that is). I don't think that was a risky throw for those 2 (obviously Kupp and JG). I mean they practiced all summer against Peters and Talib. What may seem like a tight window to us, maybe they havby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
PFF: QuoteThrough four games this year Donald has produced 28 total pressures, two more than he produced in his first four games last year. Though to be fair he only played 3 of the first 4 games last year. Last year he had 91 pressures in 14 games, which is 6.5 a game. This year so far his pace is 7 a game, though 13 came in game 4. (Before game 4 that would make it 5 a game.)by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills there is a desire by a lot of folks for Goff to be recognized as one of the games best I maintained that he will be recognized as such when he actually plays like it... not just stats but beyond that The game he had Thursday and to a lesser extent against San Diego just lets me know he is well on his way. Against the Cards in real time I was critical of him... he was offby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotekfriel In all fairness, Wentz suffered a gruesome injury and sat out nearly a year. You are calling it a draw when he is 2 games back from a serious reconstruction of the knee (and you I and the whole world knows he's not 100% physically or mentally yet) against a kid in Goff who has played every game in perfect conditions so far this year sans injury. That in and of itself should tell yoby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax I find it comical how people lock in on preconceived views. There is hardly anyone out there in the media who would say Goff is as good as Wentz. Yet, they are unable to reasonably explain the upward trend of Goff's numbers outside of laying it on the whiteboard of McVay. Since the beginning of 2017 to the present, Wentz has a cumulative YPA of 7.38, while Goff's is 8.53. And Wentz's comby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Here's why I disagree. Goff was great, but still there was another QB on the other side who was good enough to at least tie the game if not for the pass rush late in the game. And there are plenty of QBs in the same class. There are no DTs in the class of Donald. I agree with that. If passing is the big advantage you need, then the next biggest is pass defense. That means passby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotejemach to be contrarians or controversial...all for attention. Goff has pretty much answered the questions he had going into this season. They were valid questions too. But, you can't watch Thursday night and think that he is anything but "the right choice". How is he in clutch situations, like comebacks and playoff games? We can probably predict he will be fine, but,by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRamsFootballFans.com Thanks for the heads up. 73Ram QuoteznThat's cool, there's lots of other things to discuss. Admins: this is a jokey post. Max and I aren't fighting. We're friends. ... Yeah I figured that one might look wrong if read a certain way. Being jokey is a way of acknowledging how fraught a topic is without actually diving into the actual sea of fraughtness. Plby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotestlrams13 It's called MONEY Which is often in conflict with the thing we call football. I have much more appreciation for the old-school, community oriented owners like the Rooneys. I don't have as much respect for the Jerry Jones types. If we see that differently, then, okay. B) Just different votes.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotemax Goff showed he could overcome the worst coaching and persevere. Then thrive under good coaching. Anyone who says Goff didn’t get bad coaching under Fisher is flat out wrong. I don’t care about any other issues, air raid system or whatever. The fact remains Goff got bad coaching under Fisher, period end of sentence. Yeah this topic leads to a lot of "no negotiations!"by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteAlbaNY_Ram IIRC the Rams agreed to play one international home game a year while their new stadium was being built. As far as screwing the Rams goes it seems that Stan actually likes the international games. Something about building the Rams brand overseas. When the Rams were in StL he tried to move one game a year overseas but was prevented from doing so because it violated the lease agreemby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills when he was drafted, after Fisher was fired, summer of 17' he was saying Goff would bounce back under McVay. He has been consistent I always thought the piling on with Goff was ridiculous... and I preferred Wentz I remember in the summer of 17 having a conversation on sir with Solomon Wilcox of NFL Radio. He had been dogging Goff saying McVay couldn't help Goff. I challeby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Man, it’s like a dream, isn’t it? Let’s talk about this O. Goff from “bust” to possible MVP. Gurley from “possible bust” to OPOY and runnerup MVP.. Remember you're talking about others's perceptions. Outsiders. They were wrong all along, so...why is the measure of how good the Rams are now based on how badly they misperceived things then? It was easy to see Goff wasn't aby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewv ram Quotezn In terms of describing Wms defense, you just described Wade's Rams defense too. And I like Wade. I think he's one of the 2-3 best DCs in the game. But he has some personnel issues at the moment. So did Wms. I honestly don't believe there are waterproof black n white narratives for any of this. (I also believe it's okay to use mixed metaphors.) ... I dunno. I thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
Quotewv ram Quotezn Fisher did bequeath this team a lot of talent though. Granted he as always going back years could not find a WR... .... Thats a pretty big problem in a passing league, though. Fisher gets a lot of grief for the bad offenses, but sometimes it was his defenses that disappointed. Often seemed like that Greg Williams D was getting gashed by the run. They were often speby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills that some of you do It was time for him to go and he got fired and deserved to be fired... its over and done with. He along with Snead left the Rams with one of the best young QBs in football, probably the best RB, the best interior dlineman and a few other very good players. He didn't know what he was doing with the offense and after 5 years it finally caught up to himby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteSpeed_Kills Goff will get some pressure for game of the week Bears 38 Bucs 3 at the half lol! But hang on. There's still 1 & a 1/2 quarters to go. .by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteLMU93 Still a stretch for the kid considering all the time off. Plus very rarely do rookie pass rushers show much even in the best of circumstances. Generally true, zn. But what’s the alternative? Is anybody happy with the play we’re getting at edge right now? Me neither. This is not unlike the Ficken keep or replace debate. Kinda... There is no alternative.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRFL When we faced the choice of Wentz or Goff, I was initially on Team Wentz. Pro ready. Big, strong, athletic. Etc. Then I watched video of Goff's TDs at Cal. Of course, we all know that highlights compilations can be misleading. But I was impressed by two things in Goff's package: The NUMBERS of TDs the man threw. The quantity of the sample size was staggering. The nature of the thby zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteLMU93 Still a stretch for the kid considering all the time off. Plus very rarely do rookie pass rushers show much even in the best of circumstances.by zn - RamsFootballFans.com
QuoteRams43 Quotezn QuoteLMU93 I think Wilson has been alright but as of now I agree with you. They have guys like Littleton, Kiser, Obo, and Ebukam for 2019 and beyond but they will definitely need to keep stocking up at ILB/OLB. Wilson, Hager and Longacre will all be UFAs and right now have to think it is HIGHLY doubtful that Barron comes back. I'm less worried about the inside than the oby zn - RamsFootballFans.com