February 02, 2022 09:34AM
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Ramgator
It all looks good and makes a statement but the only change I can see is Mandatory Minority hires. Does anyone on here see that happening? Unless it does, this topic is simply gridlock in the NFL.


I'm not sure why Ramgator, but you seem to be approaching this as some sort of zero-sum game position (i.e. the NFL can't force team owners to hire minority head coaches so that's that). FWIW...I agree with the notion that you shouldn't force anyone to hire a minority. But you seem to act as though there's absolutely no space between the NFL doing things to ensure that qualified minority candidates are given fair opportunities...and ignoring a system where they clearly aren't.

I mean...what do you think happened the second the league enacted a salary cap? Why, the wealthier team owners began to lobby for exceptions to weaken it, right? Do you ever wonder why you pay more in income taxes than a billionaire?

The point I'm making is this...just because team owners are circumventing the Rooney Rule (which it seems that most folks agree is what is happening here), that doesn't mean that there aren't other ideas out there that might incentivize what we're all (hopefully) looking for (i.e. that the best candidate gets the job regardless of what they look like).

For example...someone in this thread brought up the issue of compensatory draft picks. Some GM's, like Les Snead, have feasted off of these picks to make their team better - either by packaging them up to maneuver in the draft...or as cheaper labor for specific positions. Who knows...this might be the extra ammo a GM/Team President needs to have to convince the team owner (who's concerned about "appearances"winking smiley to hire a qualified minority HC. Or maybe not...damn the extra 3rd round pick and roll with _____________ because...well, because he looks the part.

Just saying that there's likely some space between the two extremes that could get the NFL out of this situation.
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  Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

RockRam660February 02, 2022 05:39AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

Ramfan21183February 02, 2022 05:59AM

  No reason that Nathaniel Hackett should be hired

den-the-coach240February 02, 2022 06:04AM

  That's the problem; it won't be for the greater good

RockRam194February 02, 2022 06:07AM

  Re: That's the problem; it won't be for the greater good

ramBRO181February 02, 2022 08:00AM

  Wow. Very well said.... nm

RAMbler97February 02, 2022 08:09AM

  Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

Ramgator130February 02, 2022 08:55AM

  Re: Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

AlbaNY_Ram108February 02, 2022 09:12AM

  Re: Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

ramBRO292February 02, 2022 09:34AM

  I have thought about it and I just have no clue.

Ramgator270February 02, 2022 10:10AM

  Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

RockRam127February 02, 2022 09:46AM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

ramBRO127February 02, 2022 11:36AM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

PSJRam107February 02, 2022 12:33PM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

ramBRO127February 02, 2022 01:05PM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

Rams43145February 02, 2022 06:05AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

3030149February 02, 2022 07:32AM

  I think he has a case. Giants screwed up! Belichick gave it away.

Ramgator152February 02, 2022 06:07AM

  I get that. The Giants were just playing the game.

RockRam150February 02, 2022 06:10AM

  Please explain the way to change the situation

The Professor328February 02, 2022 07:10AM

  Your wrong

waterfield258February 02, 2022 11:25AM

  OK...Ultimately, he might get a nice $$$$$$$$$$$$ from the NFL BUT.....

Ramgator219February 02, 2022 01:51PM

  Re: OK...Ultimately, he might get a nice $$$$$$$$$$$$ from the NFL BUT.....

waterfield272February 02, 2022 02:13PM

  Re: I think he has a case. Giants screwed up! Belichick gave it away.

Rams43189February 02, 2022 06:28AM

  It touchy. Maybe not a case but certainly a gripe. Giants SHOULD have been up front...

Ramgator154February 02, 2022 07:01AM

  Re: It touchy. Maybe not a case but certainly a gripe. Giants SHOULD have been up front...

ramBRO243February 02, 2022 08:15AM

  I'm basically saying it's USELESS!

Ramgator111February 02, 2022 08:51AM

  Yep. Exactly.

RockRam101February 02, 2022 11:29AM

  And does that mean it should not go unchallenged?

waterfield105February 02, 2022 12:46PM

  Challenge away!!! Tell me an answer! That is Constitutional!

Ramgator94February 02, 2022 12:59PM

  It's not the Giants case that is damaging it is the Dolphins

RamsDynasty328February 02, 2022 07:14AM

  The Giants also interviewed L. Frazier...

Ramsfsninmd137February 02, 2022 06:42AM

  I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

roman18153February 02, 2022 06:56AM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

Ekern55120February 02, 2022 08:35AM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

waterfield99February 02, 2022 02:30PM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram88February 02, 2022 02:43PM

  So did Curt Flood

AlbaNY_Ram142February 02, 2022 06:23AM

  Not sure it's the same thing.

RockRam108February 02, 2022 09:29AM

  Re: Not sure it's the same thing.

waterfield140February 02, 2022 11:39AM

  Re: Not sure it's the same thing.

AlbaNY_Ram102February 02, 2022 11:44AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

cool_hand_luke144February 02, 2022 06:27AM

  I'm not judging the "failure", clearly the ownership thinks so

RockRam157February 02, 2022 09:48AM

  Just having a winning record doesn't have to be a criteria....

roman18140February 02, 2022 10:08AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. "He has no leverage"

BumRap223February 02, 2022 06:30AM

  good post + problem with "The Rooney Rule"

L.A.Rams132February 02, 2022 07:36AM

  On the other hand, he deserves to be blackballed...

L.A.Rams133February 02, 2022 08:17AM

  What ?.

waterfield144February 02, 2022 11:47AM

  Yeah, really.

L.A.Rams147February 02, 2022 12:14PM

  Re: Yeah, really.

waterfield109February 02, 2022 01:02PM

  it would be laughed out of court

L.A.Rams118February 02, 2022 01:09PM

  Relevance

NewMexicoRam117February 02, 2022 01:47PM

  Re: Relevance

waterfield114February 02, 2022 02:06PM

  giant poopcicle at the end of the season

RamsDynasty140February 02, 2022 08:04AM

  We all know the issue. Does anyone have any ideas HOW this could best be handled?

Ramgator202February 02, 2022 09:59AM

  He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

waterfield154February 02, 2022 11:09AM

  Don't know for sure... but have we heard Dolphins players speak out?

RockRam110February 02, 2022 11:23AM

  Re: Don't know for sure... but have we heard Dolphins players speak out?

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram161February 02, 2022 11:34AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram154February 02, 2022 11:27AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

waterfield101February 02, 2022 11:57AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram97February 02, 2022 12:26PM

  McVay ruined it for every new coach hired....

Rampage2K-139February 02, 2022 11:52AM

  I think that would be the most difficult to argue

NewMexicoRam102February 02, 2022 12:38PM

  Re: I think that would be the most difficult to argue

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram112February 02, 2022 12:47PM

  only owners color they see is green

Rams_81274February 02, 2022 12:48PM

  Re: only owners color they see is green

waterfield219February 02, 2022 01:12PM

  You're right...

alyoshamucci145February 02, 2022 12:25PM

  inaccurate assessment on most of it

Rams_81134February 02, 2022 12:47PM

  What are the merits of his case?

L.A.Rams120February 02, 2022 01:04PM

  Keep fighting the good fight, Flores

LMU93119February 02, 2022 01:54PM