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Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

February 02, 2022 12:33PM
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ramBRO
Anyways, as I've mentioned in some earlier posts to this thread, if I were the NFL, I'd consider offering compensatory draft picks of some sort to teams that hire minority coaches. This way, you get away from the language that you used of "forcing" owners to do this or that. Assuming GM's and owners are interviewing candidates that are qualified to begin with, it might serve as an incentive to go along with your qualified candidate. I suspect that MOST owners might not take it...preferring to go with an option that makes them feel more "comfortable."

Incentive based anything, in exchange for hiring anyone, for anything other than you think they are the best person for the job, is just a bad idea. The US has turned minorities into groups that now understand that in many cases, they are only being hired, offered acceptance to a school, etc. because of quotas. I personally am starting to see that this is wearing thin on certain minorities. Most people want to get a bock or go into a specific school based upon their merit. It's almost as if all of these quotas would suggest that minorities are incapable of attaining certain things simply because of their race, sex, etc. That's so unfortunate.

MLK Jr. stating that he wants to see people "judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin" is simply put and brilliantly stated. It's no different for a job, or admission to a school. We should all be judged by the same standards. When you "help" one race (or any minority or the white majority) for any reason, in many ways you are holding that group of people back from their maximum potential.

What's the NFL going to do now. They made this bed. They forced teams to interview people that they may not have had the least bit of interest in hiring in order to satisfy a silly rule. In many ways, the NFL is getting just what they asked for. Had they never instituted these minority interview rules, you would never have anyone saying they were a "token". That said, I think the same number of minority coaches would be in the NFL either way.

I wondered yesterday, why there aren't more black coaches when there are so many black players. i think it's fair to wonder that because a far fewer percentage of white folks get drafted into the NFL, that perhaps you have more white football people turning their focus to coaching, sooner in life. This would give them more experience and knowledge than another path to coaching in the NFL. I certainly prefer this idea than the one where the majority of NFL owner are racists. But... I don't know which is, or if either is accurate.

Things like this are just generally disappointing and draining because I believe the vast majority of people are not racist.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

RockRam654February 02, 2022 05:39AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

Ramfan21178February 02, 2022 05:59AM

  No reason that Nathaniel Hackett should be hired

den-the-coach235February 02, 2022 06:04AM

  That's the problem; it won't be for the greater good

RockRam190February 02, 2022 06:07AM

  Re: That's the problem; it won't be for the greater good

ramBRO178February 02, 2022 08:00AM

  Wow. Very well said.... nm

RAMbler94February 02, 2022 08:09AM

  Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

Ramgator126February 02, 2022 08:55AM

  Re: Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

AlbaNY_Ram105February 02, 2022 09:12AM

  Re: Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

ramBRO289February 02, 2022 09:34AM

  I have thought about it and I just have no clue.

Ramgator267February 02, 2022 10:10AM

  Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

RockRam123February 02, 2022 09:46AM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

ramBRO124February 02, 2022 11:36AM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

PSJRam103February 02, 2022 12:33PM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

ramBRO123February 02, 2022 01:05PM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

Rams43141February 02, 2022 06:05AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

3030143February 02, 2022 07:32AM

  I think he has a case. Giants screwed up! Belichick gave it away.

Ramgator150February 02, 2022 06:07AM

  I get that. The Giants were just playing the game.

RockRam145February 02, 2022 06:10AM

  Please explain the way to change the situation

The Professor322February 02, 2022 07:10AM

  Your wrong

waterfield255February 02, 2022 11:25AM

  OK...Ultimately, he might get a nice $$$$$$$$$$$$ from the NFL BUT.....

Ramgator216February 02, 2022 01:51PM

  Re: OK...Ultimately, he might get a nice $$$$$$$$$$$$ from the NFL BUT.....

waterfield267February 02, 2022 02:13PM

  Re: I think he has a case. Giants screwed up! Belichick gave it away.

Rams43185February 02, 2022 06:28AM

  It touchy. Maybe not a case but certainly a gripe. Giants SHOULD have been up front...

Ramgator150February 02, 2022 07:01AM

  Re: It touchy. Maybe not a case but certainly a gripe. Giants SHOULD have been up front...

ramBRO239February 02, 2022 08:15AM

  I'm basically saying it's USELESS!

Ramgator105February 02, 2022 08:51AM

  Yep. Exactly.

RockRam95February 02, 2022 11:29AM

  And does that mean it should not go unchallenged?

waterfield100February 02, 2022 12:46PM

  Challenge away!!! Tell me an answer! That is Constitutional!

Ramgator89February 02, 2022 12:59PM

  It's not the Giants case that is damaging it is the Dolphins

RamsDynasty324February 02, 2022 07:14AM

  The Giants also interviewed L. Frazier...

Ramsfsninmd134February 02, 2022 06:42AM

  I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

roman18148February 02, 2022 06:56AM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

Ekern55117February 02, 2022 08:35AM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

waterfield93February 02, 2022 02:30PM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram84February 02, 2022 02:43PM

  So did Curt Flood

AlbaNY_Ram139February 02, 2022 06:23AM

  Not sure it's the same thing.

RockRam103February 02, 2022 09:29AM

  Re: Not sure it's the same thing.

waterfield134February 02, 2022 11:39AM

  Re: Not sure it's the same thing.

AlbaNY_Ram98February 02, 2022 11:44AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

cool_hand_luke140February 02, 2022 06:27AM

  I'm not judging the "failure", clearly the ownership thinks so

RockRam154February 02, 2022 09:48AM

  Just having a winning record doesn't have to be a criteria....

roman18137February 02, 2022 10:08AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. "He has no leverage"

BumRap219February 02, 2022 06:30AM

  good post + problem with "The Rooney Rule"

L.A.Rams128February 02, 2022 07:36AM

  On the other hand, he deserves to be blackballed...

L.A.Rams127February 02, 2022 08:17AM

  What ?.

waterfield139February 02, 2022 11:47AM

  Yeah, really.

L.A.Rams142February 02, 2022 12:14PM

  Re: Yeah, really.

waterfield104February 02, 2022 01:02PM

  it would be laughed out of court

L.A.Rams116February 02, 2022 01:09PM

  Relevance

NewMexicoRam115February 02, 2022 01:47PM

  Re: Relevance

waterfield110February 02, 2022 02:06PM

  giant poopcicle at the end of the season

RamsDynasty135February 02, 2022 08:04AM

  We all know the issue. Does anyone have any ideas HOW this could best be handled?

Ramgator199February 02, 2022 09:59AM

  He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

waterfield150February 02, 2022 11:09AM

  Don't know for sure... but have we heard Dolphins players speak out?

RockRam106February 02, 2022 11:23AM

  Re: Don't know for sure... but have we heard Dolphins players speak out?

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram157February 02, 2022 11:34AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram150February 02, 2022 11:27AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

waterfield96February 02, 2022 11:57AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram93February 02, 2022 12:26PM

  McVay ruined it for every new coach hired....

Rampage2K-135February 02, 2022 11:52AM

  I think that would be the most difficult to argue

NewMexicoRam96February 02, 2022 12:38PM

  Re: I think that would be the most difficult to argue

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram109February 02, 2022 12:47PM

  only owners color they see is green

Rams_81269February 02, 2022 12:48PM

  Re: only owners color they see is green

waterfield216February 02, 2022 01:12PM

  You're right...

alyoshamucci142February 02, 2022 12:25PM

  inaccurate assessment on most of it

Rams_81131February 02, 2022 12:47PM

  What are the merits of his case?

L.A.Rams116February 02, 2022 01:04PM

  Keep fighting the good fight, Flores

LMU93114February 02, 2022 01:54PM