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Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

February 02, 2022 01:05PM
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Anyways, as I've mentioned in some earlier posts to this thread, if I were the NFL, I'd consider offering compensatory draft picks of some sort to teams that hire minority coaches. This way, you get away from the language that you used of "forcing" owners to do this or that. Assuming GM's and owners are interviewing candidates that are qualified to begin with, it might serve as an incentive to go along with your qualified candidate. I suspect that MOST owners might not take it...preferring to go with an option that makes them feel more "comfortable."

Incentive based anything, in exchange for hiring anyone, for anything other than you think they are the best person for the job, is just a bad idea.


Again, as I mentioned in my post, when you allow problems to persist and getting bigger over time, you are many times left with the "best of bad" of options. Believe me when I say this: Black coaches would have never preferred to have had the Rooney Rule in the first place. But there was a reason for it. Maybe they should've just done nothing and the issue would've just gone away?


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MLK Jr. stating that he wants to see people "judged by the content of their character, not the color of their skin" is simply put and brilliantly stated. It's no different for a job, or admission to a school. We should all be judged by the same standards. When you "help" one race (or any minority or the white majority) for any reason, in many ways you are holding that group of people back from their maximum potential.

Of course. And it'd be great if that had been (or even is) reality. The fact is, who we'd LIKE TO BE as Americans on issues of race (and other subjects) is pretty far from what we've actually seen in practice.


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I wondered yesterday, why there aren't more black coaches when there are so many black players. i think it's fair to wonder that because a far fewer percentage of white folks get drafted into the NFL, that perhaps you have more white football people turning their focus to coaching, sooner in life. This would give them more experience and knowledge than another path to coaching in the NFL. I certainly prefer this idea than the one where the majority of NFL owner are racists. But... I don't know which is, or if either is accurate.

You may have had a similar experience yourself or with your kids (with respect to sports), but I can remember the player/parent orientation event at my daughter's high school when she wanted to play volleyball. The coach got up and told everyone that, for a variety of reasons (mostly talent), the organized playing careers for 90% of the athletes in the school (not just girls volleyball) would be over by the end of their senior year. Now, whether or not that message is delivered in such stark terms to young athletes is unknown to me. Regardless, I believe that the overwhelming majority of us who have played sports learn (rather soon) that there's a ton of players bigger, faster, and smarter (on the court) than they will every be - and that's regardless of skin color. I'm not saying that you're wrong with respect to the "another path to coaching" thought...I'm just not sure that it bears out.
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  Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

RockRam655February 02, 2022 05:39AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

Ramfan21178February 02, 2022 05:59AM

  No reason that Nathaniel Hackett should be hired

den-the-coach236February 02, 2022 06:04AM

  That's the problem; it won't be for the greater good

RockRam191February 02, 2022 06:07AM

  Re: That's the problem; it won't be for the greater good

ramBRO179February 02, 2022 08:00AM

  Wow. Very well said.... nm

RAMbler95February 02, 2022 08:09AM

  Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

Ramgator127February 02, 2022 08:55AM

  Re: Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

AlbaNY_Ram107February 02, 2022 09:12AM

  Re: Flores can take every legal action there is. What outcome can he expect?

ramBRO289February 02, 2022 09:34AM

  I have thought about it and I just have no clue.

Ramgator268February 02, 2022 10:10AM

  Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

RockRam125February 02, 2022 09:46AM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

ramBRO124February 02, 2022 11:36AM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

PSJRam104February 02, 2022 12:33PM

  Re: Assuming your point is valid, how do you force this on owners?

ramBRO123February 02, 2022 01:05PM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

Rams43142February 02, 2022 06:05AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

3030145February 02, 2022 07:32AM

  I think he has a case. Giants screwed up! Belichick gave it away.

Ramgator151February 02, 2022 06:07AM

  I get that. The Giants were just playing the game.

RockRam147February 02, 2022 06:10AM

  Please explain the way to change the situation

The Professor324February 02, 2022 07:10AM

  Your wrong

waterfield256February 02, 2022 11:25AM

  OK...Ultimately, he might get a nice $$$$$$$$$$$$ from the NFL BUT.....

Ramgator217February 02, 2022 01:51PM

  Re: OK...Ultimately, he might get a nice $$$$$$$$$$$$ from the NFL BUT.....

waterfield268February 02, 2022 02:13PM

  Re: I think he has a case. Giants screwed up! Belichick gave it away.

Rams43186February 02, 2022 06:28AM

  It touchy. Maybe not a case but certainly a gripe. Giants SHOULD have been up front...

Ramgator151February 02, 2022 07:01AM

  Re: It touchy. Maybe not a case but certainly a gripe. Giants SHOULD have been up front...

ramBRO239February 02, 2022 08:15AM

  I'm basically saying it's USELESS!

Ramgator107February 02, 2022 08:51AM

  Yep. Exactly.

RockRam97February 02, 2022 11:29AM

  And does that mean it should not go unchallenged?

waterfield101February 02, 2022 12:46PM

  Challenge away!!! Tell me an answer! That is Constitutional!

Ramgator91February 02, 2022 12:59PM

  It's not the Giants case that is damaging it is the Dolphins

RamsDynasty325February 02, 2022 07:14AM

  The Giants also interviewed L. Frazier...

Ramsfsninmd134February 02, 2022 06:42AM

  I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

roman18149February 02, 2022 06:56AM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

Ekern55119February 02, 2022 08:35AM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

waterfield94February 02, 2022 02:30PM

  Re: I have been set up for interviews in the past.....

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram85February 02, 2022 02:43PM

  So did Curt Flood

AlbaNY_Ram139February 02, 2022 06:23AM

  Not sure it's the same thing.

RockRam105February 02, 2022 09:29AM

  Re: Not sure it's the same thing.

waterfield136February 02, 2022 11:39AM

  Re: Not sure it's the same thing.

AlbaNY_Ram99February 02, 2022 11:44AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. You just committed career suicide

cool_hand_luke141February 02, 2022 06:27AM

  I'm not judging the "failure", clearly the ownership thinks so

RockRam155February 02, 2022 09:48AM

  Just having a winning record doesn't have to be a criteria....

roman18138February 02, 2022 10:08AM

  Re: Holy cr@p Brian Flores. "He has no leverage"

BumRap220February 02, 2022 06:30AM

  good post + problem with "The Rooney Rule"

L.A.Rams130February 02, 2022 07:36AM

  On the other hand, he deserves to be blackballed...

L.A.Rams130February 02, 2022 08:17AM

  What ?.

waterfield140February 02, 2022 11:47AM

  Yeah, really.

L.A.Rams143February 02, 2022 12:14PM

  Re: Yeah, really.

waterfield104February 02, 2022 01:02PM

  it would be laughed out of court

L.A.Rams116February 02, 2022 01:09PM

  Relevance

NewMexicoRam115February 02, 2022 01:47PM

  Re: Relevance

waterfield112February 02, 2022 02:06PM

  giant poopcicle at the end of the season

RamsDynasty136February 02, 2022 08:04AM

  We all know the issue. Does anyone have any ideas HOW this could best be handled?

Ramgator200February 02, 2022 09:59AM

  He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

waterfield150February 02, 2022 11:09AM

  Don't know for sure... but have we heard Dolphins players speak out?

RockRam108February 02, 2022 11:23AM

  Re: Don't know for sure... but have we heard Dolphins players speak out?

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram159February 02, 2022 11:34AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram151February 02, 2022 11:27AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

waterfield97February 02, 2022 11:57AM

  Re: He knows that-but he sees a much bigger issue here

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram94February 02, 2022 12:26PM

  McVay ruined it for every new coach hired....

Rampage2K-136February 02, 2022 11:52AM

  I think that would be the most difficult to argue

NewMexicoRam97February 02, 2022 12:38PM

  Re: I think that would be the most difficult to argue

Thirtymac, The Intrepid Ram110February 02, 2022 12:47PM

  only owners color they see is green

Rams_81270February 02, 2022 12:48PM

  Re: only owners color they see is green

waterfield216February 02, 2022 01:12PM

  You're right...

alyoshamucci143February 02, 2022 12:25PM

  inaccurate assessment on most of it

Rams_81131February 02, 2022 12:47PM

  What are the merits of his case?

L.A.Rams117February 02, 2022 01:04PM

  Keep fighting the good fight, Flores

LMU93115February 02, 2022 01:54PM