August 01, 2020 11:04AM
I’m done with this with you

It’s the third time you have mischaracterized what I said about Goff and Jimmy G and how dependent those two specifically are on their coaches and the systems specifically play action and the run game. Yet here you are saying it again

If you don’t understand the concept of what I am saying then say that.... If you disagree that’s fine too

But I’m not creating a list for something that you made up




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Play better under pressure? Like which qb? And remember with "which qb" I mean you will have to name one who played with an OL that was the same kind of problem. We've seen the best struggle under pressure at times because the Rams have had Quinn and now Donald. Many top qbs had issues with Rams pressure when the Rams could bring it. Heck at the end of the famous Monday night game Mahomes had 2 chances to tie or win with just under 2 minutes and he threw 2 INTs...as a direct result of being pressured all game. The difference is, with a problem OL, it's that way for the qb every week.

What does Goff need? A fairly solid, relatively healthy OL. When he gets that people with the infamous "don't factor in the OL" syndrome will tell us how much he improved on his own as a qb.
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Well said zn. I agree with your whole post. You won't get a list or even a mention of a QB that doesn't "need a good running game and good coach or good OL. That's for a reason...there aren't any. That generalization applies to all QB's not just Goff or Jimmie G.. People who criticize Goff by saying that he doesn't play as well under pressure is another generalization that applies to 99% of all QB's. Goff has room to grow and is not perfect, I get that. But these generalizations are a weak argument as to why he isn't as good as he can be.

As for the SB, yes, I wish he would have played better too. However, I keep in mind he faced possibly the BEST defensive mind EVER in the NFL on the world's biggest stage at the age of what? 24? Having said that, IMO, if Cooks catches those 2 balls, Goff is a SB champ and maybe MVP. beer cheer smiley



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  49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo absurdly ranked behind Jared Goff in QB survey

shellback1017July 29, 2020 04:05AM

  Lol writer contradicted themselves

Ram_Ruler345July 29, 2020 04:45AM

  This author is blinded by his biases...

Rams43541July 29, 2020 06:57AM

  Re: This author is blinded by his biases...

RAMpant Defense224July 29, 2020 07:38AM

  Re: 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo absurdly ranked behind Jared Goff in QB survey

Ramsdude278July 29, 2020 07:01AM

  Re: 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo absurdly ranked behind Jared Goff in QB survey

RAMpant Defense255July 29, 2020 07:39AM

  Re: Wow lol

Speed_Kills338July 29, 2020 04:34PM

  Re: Wow lol

Ramsdude230July 30, 2020 03:27AM

  Re: Wow lol

Speed_Kills313July 30, 2020 04:52AM

  Re: Wow lol

Ramsdude247July 30, 2020 06:47AM

  Re: so you say

Speed_Kills344July 30, 2020 03:32PM

  Re: so you say

Ramsdude204July 30, 2020 04:12PM

  Re: so you say

Speed_Kills208July 30, 2020 04:24PM

  Re: Garoppolo is the lesser talent and has one problem

merlin260July 30, 2020 09:54AM

  Re: McVay and Shanny

Speed_Kills206July 30, 2020 03:40PM

  Re: Fair take

merlin214July 31, 2020 11:16AM

  Re: Fair take

Speed_Kills203July 31, 2020 08:49PM

  Re: 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo absurdly ranked behind Jared Goff in QB survey

GroundPounder221July 30, 2020 11:34AM

  it's neither thing

zn521July 30, 2020 12:04PM

  I always though Garoppolo was good, and would get better...

JamesJM222July 30, 2020 12:16PM

  Re: I always though Garoppolo was good, and would get better...

zn246July 30, 2020 12:25PM

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Ramsdude335July 30, 2020 01:14PM

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zn204July 30, 2020 02:03PM

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GroundPounder183July 30, 2020 01:34PM

  Re: I always though Garoppolo was good, and would get better...

zn276July 30, 2020 02:09PM

  Re: 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo absurdly ranked behind Jared Goff in QB survey

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Killrazor196July 31, 2020 11:18PM

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Ramsdude165August 01, 2020 04:00AM

  Re: 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo absurdly ranked behind Jared Goff in QB survey

Killrazor210August 02, 2020 12:44AM

  Re: lol

Speed_Kills182August 01, 2020 04:35AM

  Re: lol

zn324August 01, 2020 05:20AM

  Re: lol

Ramsdude157August 01, 2020 06:12AM

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BerendsenRam217August 01, 2020 06:39AM

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Killrazor174August 01, 2020 06:47AM

  Re: lol

Speed_Kills166August 01, 2020 11:04AM

  Re: lol

Ramsdude152August 01, 2020 11:42AM

  Re: nah your characterization is incorrect

Speed_Kills259August 01, 2020 10:57AM

  I am saying you don't factor it in realistically

zn175August 01, 2020 11:29AM

  Re: Sure I do

Speed_Kills143August 01, 2020 12:16PM

  Here is an article from August last year prior to the season

Speed_Kills159August 01, 2020 12:27PM

  Re: Here is an article from August last year prior to the season

zn311August 01, 2020 03:51PM

  Re: Here is an article from August last year prior to the season Attachments

GroundPounder201August 01, 2020 04:57PM

  Re: Here is an article from August last year prior to the season

zn157August 01, 2020 05:11PM

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GroundPounder490August 01, 2020 05:24PM

  Re: Here is an article from August last year prior to the season

zn230August 01, 2020 06:03PM

  Re: Here is an article from August last year prior to the season

GroundPounder211August 01, 2020 06:09PM

  Re: I see QBs from last year that had

Speed_Kills144August 01, 2020 06:14PM

  You are 1 for 1....

GroundPounder187August 01, 2020 06:35PM

  see there you go...you have to read people

zn190August 01, 2020 06:54PM

  Re: Here is an article from August last year prior to the season

zn168August 01, 2020 06:51PM

  Lol... oh boy zn lol nm

Speed_Kills159August 01, 2020 05:25PM

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zn280August 01, 2020 10:00PM

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zn145August 02, 2020 05:00AM

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GroundPounder168August 02, 2020 06:11AM

  Re: Here is an article from August last year prior to the season

zn151August 02, 2020 06:13AM

  Re: You lack balance on this

Speed_Kills150August 01, 2020 05:40PM

  Gee I say the same about you

zn321August 01, 2020 06:48PM

  Re: but the difference

Speed_Kills182August 01, 2020 06:59PM

  not at all

zn159August 01, 2020 08:27PM

  Re: lol

Killrazor288August 01, 2020 05:41AM

  Re: see I just disagree

Speed_Kills157August 01, 2020 10:46AM

  Re: gotta disagree there

Speed_Kills312August 01, 2020 04:26AM

  49er fans HATE Jimmy Jesus

ferragamo79197August 01, 2020 05:19PM

  I don't see 'hate'...

JamesJM158August 01, 2020 05:57PM

  Re: I thought they loved him

Speed_Kills192August 01, 2020 06:07PM

  No, I didn't say that... I said exactly NOT that...

JamesJM183August 01, 2020 06:19PM

  Re: yup I followed you

Speed_Kills246August 01, 2020 07:07PM

  Sort of realized that too late...

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