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Re: I always though Garoppolo was good, and would get better...

July 30, 2020 02:09PM
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I disagree. (Surprise). Goff needs the minimal help virtually every qb needs. Nothing more. 2019 doesn't show me anything to convince me otherwise.

So in one breath you say "Give him a solid OL (not great, not top 5, not perfect--just solid and relatively healthy) but then in the next it's "Goff needs the minimal help virtually every qb needs."

Explain what "minimal help" for a QB is.

A solid OL (not great, not top 5, not perfect--just solid and relatively healthy). That is the minimal help virtually every qb needs. (I have seen a couple of exceptions--there were years recently where both Wilson and Brady had injury undermined OLs and played well in spite of it, but even then it caught up with both of them.)

I would add that you probably need at least a reliable receiving threat but Goff had that. A running game doesn't hurt either, but as it stands they did not have either the the OL or the run game in 2019, and although it affected Goff, they still went 9-7 while being first in the league in pass attempts against teams that knew they could not run.

So he regressed some because of circumstances but still battled through it in a lot of ways.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/30/2020 02:10PM by zn.
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  Lol writer contradicted themselves

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Ramsdude41July 30, 2020 06:47AM

  Re: so you say

Speed_Kills41July 30, 2020 03:32PM

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Speed_Kills28July 30, 2020 04:24PM

  Re: Garoppolo is the lesser talent and has one problem

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  Re: Fair take

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  Re: Fair take

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  Re: 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo absurdly ranked behind Jared Goff in QB survey

GroundPounder40July 30, 2020 11:34AM

  it's neither thing

zn52July 30, 2020 12:04PM

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  Re: nah your characterization is incorrect

Speed_Kills30August 01, 2020 10:57AM

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  Re: Sure I do

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  Re: I see QBs from last year that had

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  You are 1 for 1....

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  see there you go...you have to read people

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  Re: You lack balance on this

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  Gee I say the same about you

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Speed_Kills24August 01, 2020 06:59PM

  not at all

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