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Re: Fair take

July 31, 2020 11:16AM
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Speed_Kills
yeah they are both good

when those offenses are rolling its a thing of beauty... McVay is evolving ... I think he's going to get more diverse in terms of his formations... I do think that's one edge that Shanny has over him

re Goff and Jimmy G - eh maybe... I mean I just think its marginal the differences between them and when I say that I mean how they perform and lead their teams
Think we see it similarly with the coaches. I believe McVay is going to be a Belichick-type head coach in terms of his upside because he has that drive to master all phases but I'm not sure Shanny shares that.

Can't disagree with lumping G&G together. To date they've been similar in that each came up short in the Super Bowl.

But that said if you look deeper at the QBs...

* Goff does have more arm talent. He's a top pick based on that arm talent. That doesn't really mean a whole lot, granted, in a WCO historically speaking (where accuracy is king), however McVay has a love of taking deep shots which makes Goff a perfect fit for his offense.

* In the Super Bowl the 9ers moved the ball on the ground but Garoppolo still played terribly. Directly comparing the situations the Rams' offense was smothered by the Patriots' defensive backfield, Belichick did a number on McVay strategically in both the run and pass, and Goff took a lot of the flak but I don't think the Rams' loss was as much his fault as the 9ers' loss was on Garoppolo. Splitting hairs maybe but I am a Rams fan.

* Garoppolo has shown a tendency to throw INTs regardless of protections and regardless of whether the run game is working. Goff has a tendency to press and throw INTs when his protections aren't there (i.e. he's not arrived yet as a QB ) but when he's got protections and a run game he tends to rip defenses.

I mean this stuff is all opinion based and we'll never know... But I get the feeling that had the 9ers started Goff in that Super Bowl they would have won the game. Garoppolo is holding them back IMO and will continue to do so. But Goff isn't going to hold you back when the run game is there and defenses aren't fully anticipating route combos.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/31/2020 11:16AM by merlin.
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shellback1393July 29, 2020 04:05AM

  Lol writer contradicted themselves

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  This author is blinded by his biases...

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  Re: so you say

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  Re: so you say

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  Re: Garoppolo is the lesser talent and has one problem

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  Re: McVay and Shanny

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  Re: Fair take

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  Re: Fair take

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  Re: 49ers' Jimmy Garoppolo absurdly ranked behind Jared Goff in QB survey

GroundPounder299July 30, 2020 11:34AM

  it's neither thing

zn604July 30, 2020 12:04PM

  I always though Garoppolo was good, and would get better...

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  Re: nah your characterization is incorrect

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  I am saying you don't factor it in realistically

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  Re: Sure I do

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  Re: I see QBs from last year that had

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  You are 1 for 1....

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  Re: You lack balance on this

Speed_Kills240August 01, 2020 05:40PM

  Gee I say the same about you

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  Re: but the difference

Speed_Kills245August 01, 2020 06:59PM

  not at all

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