August 06, 2018 08:47AM | Registered: 13 years ago Posts: 4,020
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That's the real argument here.
I don't see Donald with enough leverage to reset the market on non-QBs when he is still under contract and can get tag for years to come.
He can only hurt the Rams by hurting himself just a badly, probably worse. Teams go on without great players all the time. The Eagles lost their MVP candidate QB and still won the SB.
Donald can sit home for the next 3 years and get nothing, leaving tons of money on the table, and the Rams could very well win the SB without him.
Somewhere down the line he can demand a trade. Franchise tags count against the cap. (I have technical details on that if you want). So the Rams would face having no Donald and his tag numbers counting against the cap while he is demanding a trade. As a rule if you look around starters who demand trades get them.
Or he can take the RFA designation and see what offers he gets from the league and see if the Rams will match. But then you have a top player who your whole team admires and he had to force a market value deal out of you. Better just to sign him to a fair deal in the first place.
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Well, we’ve discussed his “demand trade” likely outcome in other threads already. In the real world, what are his chances of finding a team willing to surrender two 1sts, AND pay him his $25 or more million, AND that would be an acceptable trade partner for the Rams?
As to your suggestion of signing him to a “fair deal” in the first place? I suspect that the Rams think that that is exactly what they’re trying to do. It’s just that “fair deal” is subjective. Depends on whether one is writing or cashing the checks.
We have discussed this a million times. And we're all repeating the same things. So here I go...
1.In the Real World the Rams won't want to carry a tag on a player who won't play. So perhaps they take one 1st and a 2nd. What if the Rams aren't offering $21M? Unlikely but we don't know. But in theory Donald could be sign for that somewhere else... or 22, 23 or 24. Although I suspect some team would be happy to send a few high picks, including at least one 1st, and be willing to pay $25M. And what are the Rams going to do? Say no to that and pay him anyway? For nothing?
Donald has all the leverage he needs. He has the trump card. None of the other stuff really matters. They can't make him play and if they sit him it just makes the Rams look bad and is a financially costly move that accomplishes nothing.
I know we disagree here but its because I don't believe the Rams have any real leverage. I know the pundits keep talking about it but they can't make Donald play. I don't see where the argument continues after that. Pay him or trade him. Those are the two options... there is no Rams own him and can rub his egotistical nose in it for three years... That's just tough talk that in the Real World doesn't mean squat.
I am hoping that Donald loves the game so much that he will play this season anyway. But I wouldn't. Common sense tells me not to risk it. I could take a lesser deal by 2 or 3 million a year but over 4 or 5 years thats 8 to 15 million dollars. So the money I lose by not signing has a flip side of losing money by signing low... and its not like I am exposing my body to a full season, so I could miss a year and start back up without much change physically. So I might not really be losing any money at all by holding out except for the $6.9M and I don't risk injury and my $100M.
Just don't think its as simple as make him play...
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