August 06, 2018 08:39AM | Registered: 14 years ago Posts: 12,224
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I get that he could force a trade (next year at the earliest). But it seems weird that someone else would pay him significantly more than the Rams plus give the Rams compensation.
Remember my formula for this discussion. UNLESS WE ACTUALLY KNOW NUMBERS, we don't really know anything, and in the absence of knowing anything, it is possible to turn every "Donald's the problem" statement upside down and make it a :"Rams are the problem" statement...and SINCE we don't know anything, we have no idea which statement is closer to being accurate, or if in fact both are.
So using that formula I will reverse THIS statement:
it seems weird that someone else would pay him significantly more than the RamsHow about:
it seems weird the Rams don;t get AD's actual value and so don't realize someone else would pay him moreI don';t know which is more accurate, your original or my reversal.
So why just automatically assume one possibility as opposed to recognizing precisely that we dont really know.
To explore a little further...did you expect the Rams offer to Jenkins to be 72% of what the Giants offered? It may be true, as some say, that the Rams don't know how to sign premier defensive talent. Do they have a blindspot?
I don't know. But that's just as possible (or as equally wrong) given what we now at this point as the assumption that AD is pricing himself out of the market at the league level.
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We have no idea what the conversations are between the 2 sides. It could very well be the Rams saying lets sit down and maybe we can meet around 23M and France saying, no way, we want over 27M. Maybe thats what France thinks Donald will get from another team. I don't see it, and thats what I meant by it seems weird that another team would give him that much money AND give the Rams compensation as well. My point being that the Rams may be willing to move to 23M but thats not nearly enough for France. You don't know.
And Jenkins turns out wasn't such a bad decision by the Rams. He's not exactly a low risk player, and I can tell you many Giants fans have buyers remorse on the guy. So not a good comp for Donald at all. Keep in mind they did have a premier defensive talent in Quinn and they signed him. Another guy who didn't return good value on his extension. But thats the risk with these guys who have contact on every play. These non-QBs.
~ max ~
“The consciousness of good intentions disdains ambiguity.” - Alexander Hamilton
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