it;s too low for a very simple reason

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If, as reported, a team makes a player the highest paid at not only his position(by far) but at any defensive position...
how is that not fair market value and considered too low?
AD's value is whatever a team is willing to pay him!?....right?

Why not let other teams help set his price by letting AD negotiate?? That seems the only way beyond making him the highest paid Def player...
otherwise, how does a team set a number? Why is 23m more accurate to his value than the 21m?
AD's once-in-a-generational talent may be worth 29m/yr....why wouldn't THAT be the number that's fair for AD???
How are the Rams not negotiating in good faith IF this report is true??
The Rams offer is saying, "ADonald is the best defensive player in the NFL and we are paying him the highest money!"

I don't know how one decides what's fair in a free market other than letting the market decide by letting AD negotiate with other teams if 21m is too low?


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zn, please disregard responding to me if this discussion is tedious for you as I understand you have posted much on this topic.
No worries...I'm just getting caught up and have missed much on the board.

21 M is too low for a very simple reason. Forget about the management hype about how This Is the Highest Defensive Contract Ever. If you look through the PR the market says something else (and btw I am not pleased the Rams are back to playing PR games like that with contracts, it's the ghost of Zygmunt)

1. 2nd contracts always go up every year. They do that because the cap goes up.

2. Generally speaking the increase is 12-14% a year.

3. If you pay Donald or Mack as a top defender, the relevant contract is Von Miller in 2016. He got 19 M.

4. An increase of 2 M over the 2016 19 M calculates out to about 10%across THREE YEARS or about 3.3% a year.

5. NO POSITION has had that low an increase. None. No one. 2nd contracts for starters just simply do NOT grow that slowly.

6. If you follow the 12-14% a year model for an increase after 3 contract years over 19 M, then actually it's more than 25 M. But at a MINIMUM you should be in the 23/24 M range with at least 80 M guaranteed.

7. If you try to force the issue and try to make the player less than the market says he's worth, he's not going to go along with that. Donald won't and Mack won't. So then you end up with all the hold-out, tag, have to trade the guy scenarios...ALL because you just did not respect the market (for no good defensible reason).

8. Meanwhile the Rams already indicated they understand this dynamic when they signed Gurley to nearly TWICE the amount of the next highest RB contract (contract, not tag).

There is just no good reason to be drawing this out. The market is 23/24 M for best defender and that's on the conservative side, with the player conceding a lot (actually doing 12% a year is more like 26.5 M). You will never be able to go to any starting caliber player up for a 2nd contract and say "yeah we know about the market we're just not going to apply those rules in this case." Because the player will expect market value or at least near it. Anything less and he's being sold short. And players KNOW this. And so if you don't respect the market value, then you end up with all the hold-out, trade, locker-room morale issues that come from trying to dither around with a generational player and team leader who does absolutely everything right. It's penny-strict and team-building foolish.


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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/26/2018 07:46AM by zn.