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More things mean much more

March 24, 2022 07:01PM
how MUCH do you want to py for that "pedigree"?

Ask yourself is that pedigree stiff current, will be be the 2016 Wagner of the 2021 Wagner

Will the 2022 Wageer be better or worse than the 2021 Wagner?

Remember Reeder is not the LBer anymore, Jones is.

And Rams run a 1 Lber defense the vast majority of the time.

So, who would get the snaps an ascending player? or a declining player
who used to be great who is now still good, but not great?

Then figure in there are positions where we don't have a Jones-like guy ready
to step in like CBs . . .

I think CB and edge are more glaring needs. Jones, to me, proved himself . . .

Wagner is a nice name and still a good player, but he's slower, misses tackles
and if you trust PFF (not perfect, but a fair and reasonable starting point) he's declining
in everything....

Age is relative to the player, London Fletcher was young at 31, Wagner may be an "old" 31.

But one thing is for sure, going my tackle numbers to evaluate a player is silly.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Wagner would be huge upgrade (to Reeder), but he's not the BW of past

JimYoungblood53823March 23, 2022 05:34PM

  I think we all know

Ramsdude442March 24, 2022 04:24AM

  I think Wagner would be help to Jones even if Jones sits

JimYoungblood53160March 24, 2022 12:39PM

  Re: Wagner would be huge upgrade (to Reeder), but he's not the BW of past

Leoram350March 24, 2022 04:37AM

  The Rams learned how to stop the whiners run game in the NFCCG...

RAMbler163March 24, 2022 07:30AM

  I agree. He's lost a step.

BigGame81226March 24, 2022 04:44AM

  Re: Wagner would be huge upgrade (to Reeder), but he's not the BW of past

AlbaNY_Ram190March 24, 2022 05:20AM

  Exactly and dont forget how the rams exploited some of his weaknesses recently nm

joram390March 24, 2022 06:18AM

  PFF is not 100% foolproof but they are much better than tackles Attachments

JimYoungblood53214March 24, 2022 12:42PM

  He used to grade where AD did (in the 90s)

JimYoungblood53124March 24, 2022 12:44PM

  Re: He used to grade where AD did (in the 90s)

george_allen136March 24, 2022 03:21PM

  It's more about allocating resources Attachments

JimYoungblood53136March 24, 2022 04:14PM

  Re: It's more about allocating resources

george_allen136March 26, 2022 04:40PM

  Re: PFF is not 100% foolproof but they are much better than tackles

Rams43190March 25, 2022 06:39AM

  Re: PFF is not 100% foolproof but they are much better than tackles

SoCalRAMatic146March 25, 2022 08:15AM

  Problem is McVay wants or did want Staley's defense

JimYoungblood53155March 25, 2022 09:25AM

  Re: Youngblood's knife

leafnose212March 27, 2022 04:48AM

  Re: Youngblood's knife

Rams43117March 27, 2022 05:39AM

  The flip side is maybe they could change the scheme

JimYoungblood53207March 27, 2022 09:25AM

  Re: Wagner would be huge upgrade (to Reeder), but he's not the BW of past

Classicalwit247March 24, 2022 06:35AM

  He's 31..... Donald is 30 Darius Williams 29

ferragamo79180March 24, 2022 08:12AM

  Re: Wagner would be huge upgrade (to Reeder), but he's not the BW of past

Ramstien181March 24, 2022 04:09PM

  Tackles don't mean much

JimYoungblood53188March 24, 2022 05:00PM

  Re: Tackles don't mean much

Ramstien163March 24, 2022 05:21PM

  Sure it does.

JimYoungblood53258March 24, 2022 06:55PM

  JY53 has made some intelligent, and excellent, points

Coy Bacon144March 25, 2022 10:55AM

  Re: JY53 has made some intelligent, and excellent, points

AlbaNY_Ram228March 25, 2022 04:36PM

  Re: Tackles don't mean much

Coy Bacon212March 25, 2022 10:57AM

  Re: Tackles don't mean much: Depends on the player JY53

Anonymous User176March 24, 2022 05:31PM

  More things mean much more

JimYoungblood53286March 24, 2022 07:01PM

  Re: More things mean much more

Ramsdude149March 25, 2022 06:18AM

  More things mean much more: Many things mean much more: Agreed

Anonymous User195March 26, 2022 10:00AM

  Tackles are especially poor

JimYoungblood53200March 26, 2022 10:47AM

  Tackles are especially poor: Yes sir JY53: Did he sign with Ravens?

Anonymous User412March 26, 2022 12:39PM

  Took this from Twitter---no idea which is better Attachments

JimYoungblood53179March 26, 2022 12:51PM

  Took this from Twitter---no idea which is better: Depth is my concern

Anonymous User223March 26, 2022 01:00PM

  Watching Wagner video replay, not sold on him

Coy Bacon218March 25, 2022 06:23PM

  Re: Watching Wagner video replay, not sold on him

Ramkind185March 25, 2022 06:29PM

  Re: Watching Wagner video replay, not sold on him

joram307March 26, 2022 02:04AM

  Re: Watching Wagner video replay, not sold on him

Coy Bacon284March 26, 2022 04:46AM

  Re: Watching Wagner video replay, not sold on him

h2omelonhead149March 26, 2022 06:47PM

  Re: Watching Wagner video replay, not sold on him

Killrazor125March 26, 2022 11:11PM

  Re: Watching Wagner video replay, not sold on him

Coy Bacon104March 27, 2022 09:08AM

  If it comes down to Wagner or a CB or Edge due to the cap....

dodgerram150March 26, 2022 10:59PM

  Re: If it comes down to Wagner or a CB or Edge due to the cap....

BerendsenRam134March 28, 2022 08:36AM