February 05, 2022 05:11AM
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However, even if the guy who was arrested was not the aggressor his response has to be "reasonable" in that he must have a reasonable belief the force he displays is necessary to protect himself from some imminent violence. Moreover, and this is critical, whatever force he uses must be proportionate to the force used against him.

This is only partially correct. The use of force in response must be proportionate to the threat against him, not the initial use of force.

Of course we don't know any details at this point, but as an example.

If the attacker and the victim are both 6' 190# and the attacker pushes the victim and turns to walk away, it would not be proportionate for the victim to go punch that attacker in the face.

If the attacker is 6'4" 250# and the victim is 5'10" and 175# and the attacker pushes the victim and keeps coming at him, punching the attacker in the face is certainly proportionate to the threat.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2022 05:36AM by CeeZar.
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  Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

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  Re: Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

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  After the SF vs Dallas game, I saw video Cowboys fans fighting each other

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  Something is wrong in our society....

JamesJM265February 02, 2022 08:20PM

  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

waterfield246February 02, 2022 08:51PM

  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

Ramkind241February 02, 2022 09:00PM

  Yeah, I think most would agree with that...

JamesJM187February 02, 2022 09:57PM

  VERY fragile egos out there.

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  Glorification of Crime and Being a Victim justifies actions

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  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

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  While I agree...

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  Lots of assumptions being made.

CeeZar232February 03, 2022 03:27AM

  Re: Lots of assumptions being made.

Ramboni190February 03, 2022 04:33AM

  I saw a Rams fan at the Tampa game who was LIT! He spent more time...

Ramgator242February 03, 2022 03:09AM

  Re: Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

Tony Romas169February 03, 2022 03:16AM

  Video of the vicious beating found...

JYB329February 03, 2022 04:16AM

  Not surprised...

Ramsdude193February 03, 2022 04:38AM

  Re: Not surprised...

MamaRAMa199February 03, 2022 05:04AM

  Re: Not surprised...

Ramstien155February 03, 2022 05:13AM

  Re: Not surprised...

sfbayram210February 04, 2022 01:52PM

  Looks like the Niner fan started it.

NewMexicoRam228February 04, 2022 04:36AM

  Re: Looks like the Niner fan started it.

Ramsdude226February 04, 2022 05:14AM

  Re: Looks like the Niner fan started it.

ramithard193February 04, 2022 05:19AM

  Then he deserved being put in a coma

waterfield169February 04, 2022 12:20PM

  obviously

CeeZar175February 04, 2022 12:58PM

  Re: obviously

GlacieRam172February 04, 2022 01:39PM

  game had been going for about 45 minutes

21Dog147February 04, 2022 05:21AM

  I keep reading he was found around 4pm local time....

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  thanks for the correction

21Dog128February 04, 2022 06:11AM

  Report: Suspect Arrested In SoFi Stadium Beating

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  Updated Info

ramBRO293February 04, 2022 09:15AM

  Re: Updated Info

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  DA should not press charges on this one

merlin193February 04, 2022 10:10AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

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  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

21Dog394February 04, 2022 11:18AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

Rampage2K-231February 04, 2022 11:29AM

  You guys won't like this

waterfield204February 04, 2022 04:53PM

  Re: You guys won't like this

RamsfanRobLA284February 04, 2022 06:55PM

  Re: You guys won't like this

CeeZar380February 05, 2022 05:11AM

  Re: You guys won't like this

waterfield140February 05, 2022 09:18AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

napoli174February 04, 2022 06:45PM

  Re: Updated Info: Both might be guilty but turn the cheek

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  Reminds me of when I was at Soldier Field in 1977

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  Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

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  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

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  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

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  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

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