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You guys won't like this

February 04, 2022 04:53PM
I'm speaking as a one time practitioner in the field of criminal defense.. First assuming the 49er fan initiated this mess by "pushing" the guy. (and of course none of know what led up to this or whether he did push the guy-and that includes me) If Niner fan did push the guy unprovoked he can be charged with a battery and there are degrees of battery. However, even if the guy who was arrested was not the aggressor his response has to be "reasonable" in that he must have a reasonable belief the force he displays is necessary to protect himself from some imminent violence. Moreover, and this is critical, whatever force he uses must be proportionate to the force used against him.

An often used example in Criminal law classes is this: assuming a drunk guy at a bar doesn't like how you are looking at his girlfriend and "shoves "you on the shoulder you are not justified in breaking a bottle over his head or even justified in punching him, or slapping him, or kicking him in the goodies.

And it doesn't matter if the punch you throw wasn't intended to even cause serious trauma the result is what counts because that result came from an unlawful response to being pushed.

Now assuming this 49er fan unfortunately dies I can see charges ranging anywhere from involuntary manslaughter, voluntary manslaughter, second degree murder. What is not likely to go well with the charging D.A here, in figuring out what, if any, charges to file is the fact that the guy left the scene without seeking help for the guy unconscious on the ground and now in a coma fighting for his life. This is important because if he's convicted or pleads out the sentencing judge looks to whether is evidence of remorse and or taking responsibility. Leaving the scene after knocking someone out and who is on the ground in that condition doesn't meet those criteria.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2022 05:00PM by waterfield.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

ramBRO1290February 02, 2022 06:45PM

  Re: Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

Ram_Ruler254February 02, 2022 07:02PM

  After the SF vs Dallas game, I saw video Cowboys fans fighting each other

ramzilla217February 02, 2022 07:45PM

  Something is wrong in our society....

JamesJM264February 02, 2022 08:20PM

  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

waterfield246February 02, 2022 08:51PM

  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

Ramkind241February 02, 2022 09:00PM

  Yeah, I think most would agree with that...

JamesJM186February 02, 2022 09:57PM

  VERY fragile egos out there.

Ramgator163February 03, 2022 02:48AM

  Glorification of Crime and Being a Victim justifies actions

Rams_81177February 03, 2022 06:48AM

  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

bigjimram21374February 03, 2022 01:49AM

  While I agree...

Atlantic Ram192February 03, 2022 02:58AM

  Lots of assumptions being made.

CeeZar231February 03, 2022 03:27AM

  Re: Lots of assumptions being made.

Ramboni190February 03, 2022 04:33AM

  I saw a Rams fan at the Tampa game who was LIT! He spent more time...

Ramgator241February 03, 2022 03:09AM

  Re: Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

Tony Romas168February 03, 2022 03:16AM

  Video of the vicious beating found...

JYB328February 03, 2022 04:16AM

  Not surprised...

Ramsdude193February 03, 2022 04:38AM

  Re: Not surprised...

MamaRAMa198February 03, 2022 05:04AM

  Re: Not surprised...

Ramstien155February 03, 2022 05:13AM

  Re: Not surprised...

sfbayram208February 04, 2022 01:52PM

  Looks like the Niner fan started it.

NewMexicoRam228February 04, 2022 04:36AM

  Re: Looks like the Niner fan started it.

Ramsdude226February 04, 2022 05:14AM

  Re: Looks like the Niner fan started it.

ramithard192February 04, 2022 05:19AM

  Then he deserved being put in a coma

waterfield167February 04, 2022 12:20PM

  obviously

CeeZar174February 04, 2022 12:58PM

  Re: obviously

GlacieRam172February 04, 2022 01:39PM

  game had been going for about 45 minutes

21Dog146February 04, 2022 05:21AM

  I keep reading he was found around 4pm local time....

RAMbler163February 04, 2022 06:08AM

  thanks for the correction

21Dog128February 04, 2022 06:11AM

  Report: Suspect Arrested In SoFi Stadium Beating

ramBRO262February 04, 2022 06:01AM

  Updated Info

ramBRO293February 04, 2022 09:15AM

  Re: Updated Info

oldschoolramfan205February 04, 2022 09:58AM

  DA should not press charges on this one

merlin191February 04, 2022 10:10AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

Rampage2K-187February 04, 2022 11:10AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

21Dog394February 04, 2022 11:18AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

Rampage2K-231February 04, 2022 11:29AM

  You guys won't like this

waterfield203February 04, 2022 04:53PM

  Re: You guys won't like this

RamsfanRobLA283February 04, 2022 06:55PM

  Re: You guys won't like this

CeeZar378February 05, 2022 05:11AM

  Re: You guys won't like this

waterfield140February 05, 2022 09:18AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

napoli173February 04, 2022 06:45PM

  Re: Updated Info: Both might be guilty but turn the cheek

Anonymous User155February 05, 2022 01:30PM

  Reminds me of when I was at Soldier Field in 1977

NewMexicoRam215February 05, 2022 03:01PM

  Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

ramBRO316March 10, 2022 09:47AM

  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

SoCalRAMatic187March 10, 2022 09:58AM

  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

Ramstien273March 10, 2022 01:05PM

  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

Golden Ram111March 11, 2022 04:07AM