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You guys won't like this

February 04, 2022 04:53PM
I'm speaking as a one time practitioner in the field of criminal defense.. First assuming the 49er fan initiated this mess by "pushing" the guy. (and of course none of know what led up to this or whether he did push the guy-and that includes me) If Niner fan did push the guy unprovoked he can be charged with a battery and there are degrees of battery. However, even if the guy who was arrested was not the aggressor his response has to be "reasonable" in that he must have a reasonable belief the force he displays is necessary to protect himself from some imminent violence. Moreover, and this is critical, whatever force he uses must be proportionate to the force used against him.

An often used example in Criminal law classes is this: assuming a drunk guy at a bar doesn't like how you are looking at his girlfriend and "shoves "you on the shoulder you are not justified in breaking a bottle over his head or even justified in punching him, or slapping him, or kicking him in the goodies.

And it doesn't matter if the punch you throw wasn't intended to even cause serious trauma the result is what counts because that result came from an unlawful response to being pushed.

Now assuming this 49er fan unfortunately dies I can see charges ranging anywhere from involuntary manslaughter, voluntary manslaughter, second degree murder. What is not likely to go well with the charging D.A here, in figuring out what, if any, charges to file is the fact that the guy left the scene without seeking help for the guy unconscious on the ground and now in a coma fighting for his life. This is important because if he's convicted or pleads out the sentencing judge looks to whether is evidence of remorse and or taking responsibility. Leaving the scene after knocking someone out and who is on the ground in that condition doesn't meet those criteria.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/04/2022 05:00PM by waterfield.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

ramBRO1715February 02, 2022 06:45PM

  Re: Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

Ram_Ruler336February 02, 2022 07:02PM

  After the SF vs Dallas game, I saw video Cowboys fans fighting each other

ramzilla328February 02, 2022 07:45PM

  Something is wrong in our society....

JamesJM345February 02, 2022 08:20PM

  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

waterfield326February 02, 2022 08:51PM

  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

Ramkind325February 02, 2022 09:00PM

  Yeah, I think most would agree with that...

JamesJM270February 02, 2022 09:57PM

  VERY fragile egos out there.

Ramgator405February 03, 2022 02:48AM

  Glorification of Crime and Being a Victim justifies actions

Rams_81262February 03, 2022 06:48AM

  Re: Something is wrong in our society....

bigjimram21469February 03, 2022 01:49AM

  While I agree...

Atlantic Ram273February 03, 2022 02:58AM

  Lots of assumptions being made.

CeeZar335February 03, 2022 03:27AM

  Re: Lots of assumptions being made.

Ramboni282February 03, 2022 04:33AM

  I saw a Rams fan at the Tampa game who was LIT! He spent more time...

Ramgator332February 03, 2022 03:09AM

  Re: Uh-Oh...Looks Like 9'er Fan Caught A Beat Down

Tony Romas443February 03, 2022 03:16AM

  Video of the vicious beating found...

JYB422February 03, 2022 04:16AM

  Not surprised...

Ramsdude275February 03, 2022 04:38AM

  Re: Not surprised...

MamaRAMa285February 03, 2022 05:04AM

  Re: Not surprised...

Ramstien245February 03, 2022 05:13AM

  Re: Not surprised...

sfbayram366February 04, 2022 01:52PM

  Looks like the Niner fan started it.

NewMexicoRam318February 04, 2022 04:36AM

  Re: Looks like the Niner fan started it.

Ramsdude314February 04, 2022 05:14AM

  Re: Looks like the Niner fan started it.

ramithard279February 04, 2022 05:19AM

  Then he deserved being put in a coma

waterfield310February 04, 2022 12:20PM

  obviously

CeeZar397February 04, 2022 12:58PM

  Re: obviously

GlacieRam251February 04, 2022 01:39PM

  game had been going for about 45 minutes

21Dog225February 04, 2022 05:21AM

  I keep reading he was found around 4pm local time....

RAMbler250February 04, 2022 06:08AM

  thanks for the correction

21Dog212February 04, 2022 06:11AM

  Report: Suspect Arrested In SoFi Stadium Beating

ramBRO389February 04, 2022 06:01AM

  Updated Info

ramBRO376February 04, 2022 09:15AM

  Re: Updated Info

oldschoolramfan293February 04, 2022 09:58AM

  DA should not press charges on this one

merlin286February 04, 2022 10:10AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

Rampage2K-271February 04, 2022 11:10AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

21Dog481February 04, 2022 11:18AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

Rampage2K-320February 04, 2022 11:29AM

  You guys won't like this

waterfield287February 04, 2022 04:53PM

  Re: You guys won't like this

RamsfanRobLA472February 04, 2022 06:55PM

  Re: You guys won't like this

CeeZar677February 05, 2022 05:11AM

  Re: You guys won't like this

waterfield228February 05, 2022 09:18AM

  Re: DA should not press charges on this one

napoli261February 04, 2022 06:45PM

  Re: Updated Info: Both might be guilty but turn the cheek

Anonymous User272February 05, 2022 01:30PM

  Reminds me of when I was at Soldier Field in 1977

NewMexicoRam324February 05, 2022 03:01PM

  Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

ramBRO623March 10, 2022 09:47AM

  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

SoCalRAMatic325March 10, 2022 09:58AM

  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

Ramstien423March 10, 2022 01:05PM

  Re: Update: Man Charged With Felony Battery In SoFi Stadium Altercation; Victim Out Of Coma

Golden Ram247March 11, 2022 04:07AM