July 14, 2021 12:08PM
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JimYoungblood53
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and you will find other posts where I said his 2011 season could be considered elite

but elite is one one-season wonder

I said he's never been elite--because he never sustained it. And that is true. And
what is also true is he has some elite skills, but has not shown he's elite
as in Mannng, Rogders, Mahomes---you know, real elite QBs

not a guy who had one great year 10 years ago

you're stretching it just to include him just because he's now a Ram

come on
Well, I really don't know what your motivation is in arguing these things. In this thread, you've said that he's never played at an elite level, which is false. Then you changed your parameters for what should be considered elite. Now, you're acting as if Stafford had 1 fluke season and has not done anything since then.

It isn't me who is trying to contort the conversation though. I just don't know why you want to bang the drum saying Stafford is overrated when most feel he's actually underrated. I think if one was to look at his numbers in perspective, that we'd have to acknowledge that he has pup very good statistics in a terrible situation. I'm reminded of Steve Young with the Buccaneers.
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  Stafford's overrated

joram1561July 08, 2021 04:51PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

george_allen407July 08, 2021 05:22PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

zn402July 08, 2021 05:25PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

Payote75326July 08, 2021 07:34PM

  +1.

stlramz466July 08, 2021 08:56PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

BeachBoy180July 09, 2021 09:58PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

Classicalwit296July 11, 2021 06:58PM

  All in the past

JimYoungblood53300July 08, 2021 06:37PM

  I had a good laugh from that.

NewMexicoRam464July 08, 2021 06:44PM

  Re: I had a good laugh from that.

waterfield211July 08, 2021 08:29PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

moklerman316July 08, 2021 08:34PM

  Yeah, I think I'll go ahead and go with McVay and Shanahan

BC Ramsfan203July 08, 2021 09:19PM

  There is always the one or two

den-the-coach499July 09, 2021 03:07AM

  Re: There is always the one or two

Leoram571July 09, 2021 03:34AM

  Shanny used to live Jimmy G, McVay ysed to loe Goff

JimYoungblood53181July 09, 2021 02:51PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

PA48355July 09, 2021 03:22AM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

moklerman160July 09, 2021 12:45PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

zn188July 09, 2021 04:21PM

  Looked back at his numbers and some team numbers for the lions 2009-2020...

roman18644July 09, 2021 04:27AM

  Good analysis

NewMexicoRam188July 09, 2021 01:05PM

  Re: Looked back at his numbers and some team numbers for the lions 2009-2020...

AlbaNY_Ram260July 09, 2021 01:32PM

  Stafford's overrated: I can see why some share that opinion.

Anonymous User390July 09, 2021 03:02PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated: I can see why some share that opinion.

zn707July 09, 2021 03:30PM

  What does overrated mean?

JimYoungblood53457July 11, 2021 02:15AM

  Re: What does overrated mean?

moklerman441July 11, 2021 09:47AM

  No

JimYoungblood53176July 11, 2021 03:26PM

  Re: No

moklerman180July 11, 2021 05:02PM

  Not balony

JimYoungblood53195July 11, 2021 10:06PM

  Re: Not balony

moklerman286July 12, 2021 12:03PM

  I think you're just wanting

JimYoungblood53165July 12, 2021 01:19PM

  Re: I think you're just wanting

moklerman153July 12, 2021 10:13PM

  I said he's never been elite

JimYoungblood53149July 14, 2021 08:20AM

  Re: I said he's never been elite

moklerman177July 14, 2021 12:08PM

  My point is keeping on with the debate is you are not

JimYoungblood53116July 14, 2021 04:05PM

  Re: My point is keeping on with the debate is you are not

moklerman260July 14, 2021 04:18PM

  Why is my definition out of the norm?

JimYoungblood53147July 14, 2021 04:50PM

  Re: Why is my definition out of the norm?

moklerman285July 14, 2021 05:05PM

  No----Top 10 four times

JimYoungblood53264July 14, 2021 05:45PM

  Re: No----Top 10 four times

moklerman140July 15, 2021 12:38AM

  Wrong

JimYoungblood53141July 15, 2021 09:08AM

  Re: Wrong

moklerman144July 15, 2021 11:33AM

  Sorry,

JimYoungblood53145July 15, 2021 12:27PM

  Re: Sorry,

moklerman249July 15, 2021 01:18PM

  You, for one

JimYoungblood53132July 15, 2021 01:54PM

  Nope

moklerman136July 15, 2021 04:55PM

  Man

JimYoungblood53242July 15, 2021 07:26PM

  Re: Man

moklerman155July 15, 2021 08:53PM

  Elite is sustaining greatness for a long time

PHDram150July 15, 2021 12:54PM

  Another important missed fact

Coy Bacon326July 09, 2021 04:47PM

  I don't think this relfects most fans' thinking

LMU93156July 11, 2021 08:03AM

  Re: I don't think this relfects most fans' thinking

zn406July 11, 2021 09:14AM

  Re: I don't think this relfects most fans' thinking

dzrams235July 11, 2021 07:01PM

  Re: I don't think this relfects most fans' thinking

moklerman281July 11, 2021 08:31PM

  I don't think this reflects most fans' thinking: Yes sir, LMU93

Anonymous User184July 11, 2021 09:20AM

  Bucky Brooks: Stafford a top 5 underrated player in the NFL

zn356July 11, 2021 11:26AM

  This is why I don't respect Bucky Brooks

merlin216July 11, 2021 06:03PM

  I did the same thing and had the same reaction

Atlantic Ram365July 14, 2021 05:59AM

  I think is is overrated too but likable

Rams_81187July 12, 2021 11:31AM

  yes he is accurate depending on the range

zn177July 12, 2021 07:34PM

  look at this late bloomer

joram498July 14, 2021 05:19PM

  Keep in mind: Played on terrible teams with no running game

ferragamo79267July 14, 2021 06:59PM

  Re: Stafford's overrated

HornsUpRamily!406July 15, 2021 11:56AM

  Bump

Ramadune188February 03, 2022 12:30PM

  I miss zn…

Rams43170February 03, 2022 02:36PM

  Re: I miss zn…

THE FANATIC411February 03, 2022 03:00PM

  I do, too...

sstrams134February 03, 2022 03:19PM

  pretty opinionated and banned multiple times

ferragamo79370February 03, 2022 03:28PM

  True

Speedball89168February 03, 2022 04:04PM

  Re: True

Killrazor158February 04, 2022 12:32AM

  like i said b4 even murderers get parole

joram143February 04, 2022 01:55AM