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stlramz
Trying to re-set our posting relationship here zn.
Not trying to mischaracterize you (I never am BTW) at all so I am asking this as a question:
Do you believe that Goff was on the same level or better than Stafford as 5th year guy?
In other words, that 5th year Stafford and 5th year Goff are fairly comparable?
Second, is the reason you are calling McVay impatient is because he needed only to continue on with Goff and he ends up with a similar player as Stafford at the various stages in his career?
Is this what you are saying?
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Stafford and Goff had similar 5th years. Goff had 4 poor games in 2020; Stafford had 4 poor games in 2013. They were both inconsistent. In Stafford's case that did not tell you his ceiling. I think it's the same with Goff. Stafford is far more physically gifted than most qbs but then he still has his little flaws, just like everyone else.
I call McVay impatient because according to reports he was not a good qb coach. Would berate the guy in front of the team and according to a source knew how to tear the qb down but not how to build him back up. That can and apparently did lead to confidence issues, which is more or less exactly what we should expect, and it's hard for me to believe that disconnect and those confidence issues had no effect on Goff's play in 2020 (which is not to say it was the only factor).
I don't say he needed to continue on with Goff--I was fine with the trade from the second it happened. If there is a disconnect and communication issues with the qb and coach, and the coach is a winning coach, it will be the qb who leaves. Heck it may be personality--maybe both need a different kind of guy as coach or qb. I didn't see it as something that could be fixed, or I had my doubts. BUT how you perform is how you perform and as a
qb coach McV performed the way he did--impatient, volatile, not steady and not communicating. That's just true, it happened. It won't happen with Stafford though.
My main thing in talking about Goff is I don't like hyperbole. And there's a lot of that. I may seem like I always jump in to respond to it, but truth is, no, I don't respond to all of it or even half of it. Just some of it. It may be history but IMO history and the interpretation of history is open to debate. Though at the end of the day it's still history. Heck I have gotten into it this year with people who were (in my eyes) unfairly overcritical of BULGER. To me it's the same kind of "fight."
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