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Re: nice job!!

October 28, 2019 08:52AM
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dzrams
You may not like my conclusions but what facts would you add to it?

What I criticize is your premises.

You mix up 2nd, 3rd, and 4th contracts (the league treats those differently--2nd contracts are a thing of their own).

You don't go by the year. The year means everything.

You don't distinguish between starting, franchise players and then just other guys, though the league does and the numbers do.

Here's an example. Quarterback.

Since 2012, quarterbacks considered franchise guys or perpetual starters got one level of 2nd contract numbers--and it absolutely went up every year.

That would be Newton, Luck, Wilson, Cousins, Carr, Dalton, Garoppolo, Wentz, and Goff

Okay.

Now what about players who were not considered starting, franchise caliber players? They did NOT get the annual going rate the first list did. So as to not confuse things I will stick to just first round qbs. Guys who did NOT get a given year's starting caliber market value include:

Tannenhill, Bortles, Griffen, Bridgewater, Ponder, Gabbert, Locker, Weedon, Manual, Manziel.

For some that was because of injury. But not all.

So 2 things.

* 2nd contracts for starting caliber, franchise guys go up every year. Check the contracts on my first list. They HAVE TO go up every year because the contracts mirror the cap and the cap goes up.

* Guys who are on the iffy 2nd list don't get the same annual increase. That is why every time I discuss 2nd contracts I talk about the numbers for guys considered starters and/or franchise players.

You want the same for WR?

In 2018 these guys got around 16 M: Evens, Cook, Watkins.

In 2019 these guys got around 18-19 M: Beckham, Hill, Thomas.

If as we're finding out...and in contrast to what I said earlier--slot receivers have their own market, then that too would go up.

So for example Thielen got around 16 M in 2019, Landry got around 15 M in 2018.
SubjectAuthorViewsPosted

  Trading Kupp...

JamesJM829October 27, 2019 06:00PM

  Re: Trading Kupp...

Rampage2K-333October 27, 2019 06:22PM

  It's like that Peter Griffin joke

Ram_Ruler348October 27, 2019 06:24PM

  Re: Trading Kupp...

Classicalwit253October 27, 2019 07:25PM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

dzrams290October 27, 2019 07:39PM

  Here's your answer

waterfield307October 27, 2019 07:46PM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

zn293October 27, 2019 09:12PM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

DESERT RAM273October 27, 2019 09:36PM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

dzrams209October 27, 2019 10:24PM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

zn196October 28, 2019 04:37AM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

max271October 28, 2019 03:45AM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

zn228October 28, 2019 04:28AM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

max192October 28, 2019 05:02AM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

jim beam214October 28, 2019 05:30AM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

zn199October 28, 2019 06:46AM

  Re: sure the equation exists

Speed_Kills188October 28, 2019 05:23AM

  You cant fit everything into the same formula

max183October 28, 2019 05:38AM

  ok now we are talking max

Speed_Kills181October 28, 2019 05:41AM

  Re: ok now we are talking max

max168October 28, 2019 05:49AM

  Re: my only question is

Speed_Kills165October 28, 2019 05:54AM

  Re: my only question is

max196October 28, 2019 06:14AM

  Re: yeah I think that’s too harsh on Cooks

Speed_Kills164October 28, 2019 06:41AM

  Re: You cant fit everything into the same formula

zn168October 28, 2019 06:10AM

  Re: You cant fit everything into the same formula

max163October 28, 2019 06:16AM

  Re: You cant fit everything into the same formula

zn185October 28, 2019 06:22AM

  Re: sure the equation exists

zn181October 28, 2019 06:08AM

  Re: Ok...here's a little research on slot receivers...

dzrams216October 28, 2019 07:43AM

  Re: Ok...here's a little research on slot receivers...

zn241October 28, 2019 07:52AM

  Re: Ok...here's a little research on slot receivers...

dzrams168October 28, 2019 08:38AM

  yeah you're misreading me a bit

zn268October 28, 2019 09:08AM

  Re: nice job!!

AlbaNY_Ram239October 28, 2019 08:05AM

  Re: nice job!!

zn279October 28, 2019 08:12AM

  Re: nice job!!

dzrams188October 28, 2019 08:39AM

  Re: nice job!!

zn161October 28, 2019 08:52AM

  Re: nice job!!

dzrams191October 28, 2019 09:10AM

  Re: huh?

AlbaNY_Ram197October 28, 2019 09:55AM

  yup...thats what ive been saying

PHDram190October 28, 2019 08:06AM

  Re: yup...thats what ive been saying

zn176October 28, 2019 08:18AM

  nah.

PHDram165October 28, 2019 10:49AM

  Re: yup...thats what ive been saying

dzrams186October 28, 2019 08:50AM

  Re: yup...thats what ive been saying

zn250October 28, 2019 09:18AM

  baseline

PHDram166October 28, 2019 10:32AM

  delete nm

Speed_Kills173October 28, 2019 05:11AM

  Re: Trading Kupp.../ he is a keeper

jim beam282October 28, 2019 05:14AM

  He's merely the 2nd leading WR in the entire League. (nm)

RockRam170October 28, 2019 10:55AM