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Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

October 28, 2019 04:28AM
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I swear, you young whipper-snappers astound me.. always the HIGH DRAFT picks trump ALL. Get rid of EVERY good player and stockpile draft picks... if there exists a more losing strategy I couldn't begin to speculate what it could be.

it's gotten to the point that a #1 draft pick equates to SB Victory. Say HUH?

Ok, sorry... but geez. - JamesJM

I don't think anyone WANTS to trade Kupp. But there have been suggestions that, since it's possible we may not be able to sign him to a new contract, maybe we should get a Jalen Ramsey package for him.

To talk about trading without talking about the upcoming contract issue is misrepresenting the "young whipper-snappers" position. Said with all due respect. (As an aside I'm not sure why you assume that those who have suggested that are young.)

They can sign him. Why not?

And...no one is going to give 2 1s for Kupp. He's good. But he ranks among a few good receivers in the league. Ramsey is a rare shut-down corner. You're comparing diamonds and pearls. There's always more of the latter than the former.

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Interesting that Cooks gets traded for a first rounder twice, yet the Pats didn’t consider him the Rams best WR in the SB. They doubled Woods.

And Cooks gets paid WR1 money because of speed. Teams say rare speed and they overpay. He’s overpaid yet teams view him as more valuable than Kupp. Not me.

Would anyone give up a first rounder for Kupp? I don’t think so. And that’s fine by me. He’s not gonna get WR1, perfect. We get to keep him as a guy who outplays his salary. Just another reason not to trade him. Kupp will always be great bang for the buck. You don’t trade guys like that.

Cooks didn't get paid as a "#1" though. His was the standard issue 2nd contract for a starting receiver that year---around 16 M. Watkins and Evans got the pretty much the same amount that year.

Now and then a genuinely elite WR gets more than the year's 2nd contract amount--but that's guys like Jones. Just as Mack got more than the normal OLB amount. Neither Kupp nor Cooks is in that territory. And that's said with full awareness of how good Kupp is.

When Kupp comes up, most likely what will happen is, he will also get the year's standard issue 2nd contract amount for a starting WR. Last year, that was in the 18-19 M range.

There will be no "he isn't a #1" calculation because that does not exist.

Now and then a guy like Woods gets undervalued. It's because he's not seen on the market as a viable every game starter. If you can hit on a guy like that--someone the market is undervaluing--that's good.



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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2019 04:58AM by zn.
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  Trading Kupp...

JamesJM829October 27, 2019 06:00PM

  Re: Trading Kupp...

Rampage2K-333October 27, 2019 06:22PM

  It's like that Peter Griffin joke

Ram_Ruler348October 27, 2019 06:24PM

  Re: Trading Kupp...

Classicalwit253October 27, 2019 07:25PM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

dzrams290October 27, 2019 07:39PM

  Here's your answer

waterfield307October 27, 2019 07:46PM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

zn293October 27, 2019 09:12PM

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DESERT RAM273October 27, 2019 09:36PM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

dzrams209October 27, 2019 10:24PM

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zn195October 28, 2019 04:37AM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

max271October 28, 2019 03:45AM

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zn227October 28, 2019 04:28AM

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max192October 28, 2019 05:02AM

  Re: You're missing 90% of the equation...

jim beam214October 28, 2019 05:30AM

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zn198October 28, 2019 06:46AM

  Re: sure the equation exists

Speed_Kills188October 28, 2019 05:23AM

  You cant fit everything into the same formula

max183October 28, 2019 05:38AM

  ok now we are talking max

Speed_Kills180October 28, 2019 05:41AM

  Re: ok now we are talking max

max168October 28, 2019 05:49AM

  Re: my only question is

Speed_Kills165October 28, 2019 05:54AM

  Re: my only question is

max196October 28, 2019 06:14AM

  Re: yeah I think that’s too harsh on Cooks

Speed_Kills164October 28, 2019 06:41AM

  Re: You cant fit everything into the same formula

zn168October 28, 2019 06:10AM

  Re: You cant fit everything into the same formula

max163October 28, 2019 06:16AM

  Re: You cant fit everything into the same formula

zn185October 28, 2019 06:22AM

  Re: sure the equation exists

zn181October 28, 2019 06:08AM

  Re: Ok...here's a little research on slot receivers...

dzrams216October 28, 2019 07:43AM

  Re: Ok...here's a little research on slot receivers...

zn241October 28, 2019 07:52AM

  Re: Ok...here's a little research on slot receivers...

dzrams168October 28, 2019 08:38AM

  yeah you're misreading me a bit

zn268October 28, 2019 09:08AM

  Re: nice job!!

AlbaNY_Ram239October 28, 2019 08:05AM

  Re: nice job!!

zn279October 28, 2019 08:12AM

  Re: nice job!!

dzrams188October 28, 2019 08:39AM

  Re: nice job!!

zn161October 28, 2019 08:52AM

  Re: nice job!!

dzrams191October 28, 2019 09:10AM

  Re: huh?

AlbaNY_Ram197October 28, 2019 09:55AM

  yup...thats what ive been saying

PHDram190October 28, 2019 08:06AM

  Re: yup...thats what ive been saying

zn176October 28, 2019 08:18AM

  nah.

PHDram165October 28, 2019 10:49AM

  Re: yup...thats what ive been saying

dzrams186October 28, 2019 08:50AM

  Re: yup...thats what ive been saying

zn249October 28, 2019 09:18AM

  baseline

PHDram166October 28, 2019 10:32AM

  delete nm

Speed_Kills172October 28, 2019 05:11AM

  Re: Trading Kupp.../ he is a keeper

jim beam281October 28, 2019 05:14AM

  He's merely the 2nd leading WR in the entire League. (nm)

RockRam170October 28, 2019 10:55AM