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I swear, you young whipper-snappers astound me.. always the HIGH DRAFT picks trump ALL. Get rid of EVERY good player and stockpile draft picks... if there exists a more losing strategy I couldn't begin to speculate what it could be.
it's gotten to the point that a #1 draft pick equates to SB Victory. Say HUH?
Ok, sorry... but geez. - JamesJM
I don't think anyone WANTS to trade Kupp. But there have been suggestions that, since it's possible we may not be able to sign him to a new contract, maybe we should get a Jalen Ramsey package for him.
To talk about trading without talking about the upcoming contract issue is misrepresenting the "young whipper-snappers" position. Said with all due respect. (As an aside I'm not sure why you assume that those who have suggested that are young.)
They can sign him. Why not?
And...no one is going to give 2 1s for Kupp. He's good. But he ranks among a few good receivers in the league. Ramsey is a rare shut-down corner. You're comparing diamonds and pearls. There's always more of the latter than the former.
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Interesting that Cooks gets traded for a first rounder twice, yet the Pats didn’t consider him the Rams best WR in the SB. They doubled Woods.
And Cooks gets paid WR1 money because of speed. Teams say rare speed and they overpay. He’s overpaid yet teams view him as more valuable than Kupp. Not me.
Would anyone give up a first rounder for Kupp? I don’t think so. And that’s fine by me. He’s not gonna get WR1, perfect. We get to keep him as a guy who outplays his salary. Just another reason not to trade him. Kupp will always be great bang for the buck. You don’t trade guys like that.
Cooks didn't get paid as a "#1" though. His was the standard issue 2nd contract for a starting receiver that year---around 16 M. Watkins and Evans got the pretty much the same amount that year.
Now and then a genuinely elite WR gets more than the year's 2nd contract amount--but that's guys like Jones. Just as Mack got more than the normal OLB amount. Neither Kupp nor Cooks is in that territory. And that's said with full awareness of how good Kupp is.
When Kupp comes up, most likely what will happen is, he will also get the year's standard issue 2nd contract amount for a starting WR. Last year, that was in the 18-19 M range.
There will be no "he isn't a #1" calculation because that does not exist.
Now and then a guy like Woods gets undervalued. It's because he's not seen on the market as a viable every game starter. If you can hit on a guy like that--someone the market is undervaluing--that's good.
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/28/2019 04:58AM by zn.