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dzrams
#1 - I'm assuming no such thing. You've got to remember the context I spoke up in was the reasonableness of replaying the game from the none called PI without considering previous infractions. Personally, I would NEVER advocate replaying a game from any point based on a ref mistake even if my team was on the losing end of error. So for me I'm coming at this from an objective basis, not a Rams or Saints view, when I say I don't believe in replaying games based on human error.
But if one were to advocate replaying the game, but they give no consideration to the series before, if that is dismissed outright without thought, then by definition that person isn't considering all of the evidence and thus they are not objective....by definition.
#2 - I know there are several people on this board that have stated that the Saints fans have a right to feel robbed. I've seen that enough on this board that it is self evident. No quotes required. If you don't believe, do a search. I'm also certain that if the situation were reversed it would be possible for a Rams fan to simultaneously feel robbed while acknowledging that they got away with a critical, potentially game altering non-call on the series before.
I deliberately used the phrase relative objectivity because, as humans, there probably is no such thing as pure rationality. However, it is possible for a fan, other unbiased observers, or even one of the involved players be able to speak from a more objective and reasoned place than the norm.
Yeah the "replay the game" stuff was silly.
I have seen one person who ALMOST said what you claim in #2, that is said it without qualifying it with a "but," and to be fair and honest, they got piled on (although it was a civil one as pile-ons go). I am talking about straight up, without qualification, and without a "but," a Rams fan upholding the Saints fan view. And no I have not seen that anywhere, let alone here, and the post I mentioned didn't even go that far...it just regretted the non-call as a black eye. If you have any examples of posts from any board where withiout qualification a Rams fans openly says the Saints were robbed, PM me. '
My own feeling--there is not even RELATIVE objectivity in this. It is a purely partisan issue from start to finish built around value judgments. Facts can't decide it, there is no rational objective view that would favor either team really. I can only see this as purely a value judgment issue and I personally think that's inescapable. That doesn't stop me from taking sides when confronted about this by local Patz fans, but to me that just means when it's time to take a side you take a side.
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