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Re: This right here....

January 27, 2019 01:39PM
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dzrams
Some people are gifted with the ability to be more fair and objective than the norm. Of course even that has its downsides.

And I don't believe that every fan automatically takes the side of their team. History shows that isn't the case.

So yeah, I'd say it's possible for a fan, Drew Brees, or any other commentator to consider the facts from both sides with relative objectivity and come to a reasoned and fair conclusion.

There are some problems with that argument.

#1, you're assuming that being fair and objective means agreeing with the Rams fans view of this. Which is a partisan view. On virtually all controversies with strong emotional engines driving them, people claim their side is the fair and objective one. Both Saints fans and Rams fans are doing that on this issue.

#2, let;'s translate that to this--it is possible that some people can look at a controversy like this and see the validity of the other side. Okay. If that's true there ought to be a contingent of Rams fans saying I see the Saints side of this, I see their point, and the Saints fans have right to feel robbed. Right? I mean that ought to be possible. But where are they. Quotes from any Rams message board will do.

#3. unless you can't see #2 as valid because you're stuck in the emotionally partisan view that says only the Rams fan view is the fair and objective one.

Where am I at with all this? When I am assailed by Patz fans with the view that the non-PI call was a gift that tilted the game (which has already happened a few times), I stick up for the Rams. I mention the facemask and argue that no game reduces to one non-call. I don't convince anyone and don't think I WILL convince anyone, but the conversation REALLY means taking a side and when it's time to take a side I do.

But I don't believe for a second that that is the only possible fair and objective view. I know full well it is an emotional value judgment on an issue where there is no such thing as a purely rational view. On either side.

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/27/2019 01:43PM by zn.
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  A THINKING MAN!!!

Classicalwit977January 26, 2019 12:13PM

  Dungy nails it with this comment here

Rampage2K-553January 26, 2019 12:24PM

  He also said . . .

stlramz336January 26, 2019 12:30PM

  Re: Here's a little Irony......

oldschoolramfan377January 26, 2019 12:34PM

  Re: Dungy nails it with this comment here

Anonymous User265January 26, 2019 06:03PM

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Classicalwit219January 26, 2019 06:07PM

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Classicalwit191January 27, 2019 05:25AM

  Re: A THINKING MAN!!!

zn365January 26, 2019 12:34PM

  I agree with that, zn

NewMexicoRam221January 26, 2019 01:00PM

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Classicalwit238January 26, 2019 01:12PM

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zn220January 26, 2019 01:15PM

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embraceable_ewe83320January 26, 2019 01:14PM

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zn244January 26, 2019 01:25PM

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bigjimram21213January 26, 2019 03:42PM

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zn283January 26, 2019 04:00PM

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Classicalwit201January 26, 2019 05:48PM

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zn179January 27, 2019 02:50AM

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dzrams131January 27, 2019 01:28PM

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zn136January 27, 2019 01:39PM

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Classicalwit149January 27, 2019 02:15PM

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dzrams123January 27, 2019 02:57PM

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zn137January 27, 2019 03:09PM

  Re: Sorry but I disagree

bigjimram21165January 27, 2019 05:11AM

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embraceable_ewe83252January 27, 2019 05:47AM

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zn285January 27, 2019 05:53AM

  But you are displacing facts with what ifs.....

roman18185January 27, 2019 06:42AM

  Re: But you are displacing facts with what ifs.....

zn207January 27, 2019 07:24AM

  You are being selective in saying come on man......

roman18132January 27, 2019 07:39AM

  I'm not being anything..

zn151January 27, 2019 07:53AM

  I can see what zn is saying and agree...but..

SunTzu_vs_Camus383January 27, 2019 07:26AM

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zn152January 27, 2019 08:01AM

  I completely agree with that assessment of fans...

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Rampage2K-141January 27, 2019 03:22PM