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Some people are gifted with the ability to be more fair and objective than the norm. Of course even that has its downsides.
And I don't believe that every fan automatically takes the side of their team. History shows that isn't the case.
So yeah, I'd say it's possible for a fan, Drew Brees, or any other commentator to consider the facts from both sides with relative objectivity and come to a reasoned and fair conclusion.
There are some problems with that argument.
#1, you're assuming that being fair and objective means agreeing with the Rams fans view of this. Which is a partisan view. On virtually all controversies with strong emotional engines driving them, people claim their side is the fair and objective one. Both Saints fans and Rams fans are doing that on this issue.
#2, let;'s translate that to this--it is possible that some people can look at a controversy like this and see the validity of the other side. Okay. If that's true there ought to be a contingent of Rams fans saying I see the Saints side of this, I see their point, and the Saints fans have right to feel robbed. Right? I mean that ought to be possible. But where are they. Quotes from any Rams message board will do.
#3. unless you can't see #2 as valid because you're stuck in the emotionally partisan view that says only the Rams fan view is the fair and objective one.
Where am I at with all this? When I am assailed by Patz fans with the view that the non-PI call was a gift that tilted the game (which has already happened a few times), I stick up for the Rams. I mention the facemask and argue that no game reduces to one non-call. I don't convince anyone and don't think I WILL convince anyone, but the conversation REALLY means taking a side and when it's time to take a side I do.
But I don't believe for a second that that is the only possible fair and objective view. I know full well it is an emotional value judgment on an issue where there is no such thing as a purely rational view. On either side.
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What?!
Several people have said that here. No one should be surprised or offended that the Saints players and fans feel the way that they do; it's an emotional response. For them it probably feels like the finish line got moved just as they were about to cross it, and the runner closing behind you passed you. But every time I've tried to reason with any fan who felt that there was a bad call or some kind of a conspiracy against their favorite sports team, they just @#$%& down. I get terribly reasoned arguments that are, at best, delusional, and, at worst, border on the nonsensical.
The reasonable response would be something like, "I see your point. I disagree with it but I can understand it."
That's why I feel the need to present counter assertions. It's a question of balance.