April 07, 2018 12:12PM
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aking a known productive player for a first here was a move which eliminated the risk inherent in the draft.

You know no one "assumed" that they would get a good player.

I know I for one said they COULD get a good player there. But that's not the same as assuming they would.

As for your last point (quoted) I agree. As I say earlier in another post in this thread:

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Relatively speaking, are you better off trading for an already proven and successful young vet than you are drafting a player in the bottom 3rd of the 1st round? Chances are, yes.

Apparently I did say that, and, in retrospect you're right, that's the wrong way to put it.

Earlier I said

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I assume whoever the Rams would have picked at 23 in the 2018 draft would have been a good player.

Later I put it differently and I stand by this later version:

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Could the Rams get a good player with the 23rd pick? We have to say yes to that...a no answer would just be goofy. Yes OF COURSE they could.

"Could" is obviously better.

So I stand corrected. cool smiley

Though no matter which way I put it both times I was defending the Cook trade. Even if you DO *assume* they would have gotten (as opposed to could have gotten) a good pick there, the trade is defensible IMO. Cooks is a young 3 time 1000 yard receiver who fits what McV wants from his X receiver, and so yeah you can justify that trade I think. I think the majority agree.




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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 04/07/2018 12:16PM by zn.
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  Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

Ramsdude816April 07, 2018 04:10AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

zn351April 07, 2018 04:20AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

Ramsdude326April 07, 2018 04:29AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

zn286April 07, 2018 04:42AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

Ramsdude251April 07, 2018 05:01AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

SoCalRAMatic224April 07, 2018 05:18AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

zn232April 07, 2018 05:29AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

73Ram305April 07, 2018 05:34AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

zn233April 07, 2018 05:57AM

  I should have been clearer.....

73Ram232April 07, 2018 06:50AM

  Re: I should have been clearer.....

zn374April 07, 2018 07:46AM

  Arggggg...proof reading is a weaknees of mine!

73Ram467April 07, 2018 07:50AM

  Re: Arggggg...proof reading is a weaknees of mine!

zn309April 07, 2018 07:52AM

  Thanks for understanding my point....nm

73Ram208April 07, 2018 07:53AM

  Re: ASSUMING - History of #23 Pick

hammer235April 07, 2018 10:03AM

  Re: ASSUMING - History of #23 Pick

Rampage2K-209April 07, 2018 10:26AM

  Re: ASSUMING - History of #23 Pick

zn224April 07, 2018 10:54AM

  I'm wrong

zn237April 07, 2018 12:12PM

  Re: I like the trade too

hammer541April 07, 2018 01:09PM

  So, okay, I can go along with your correction

NewMexicoRam244April 07, 2018 01:27PM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

Ramsdude223April 07, 2018 07:50AM

  I agree with ZN...

jemach221April 07, 2018 12:28PM

  Re: I agree with ZN...

Ramsdude211April 07, 2018 01:50PM

  Ok...

jemach214April 07, 2018 01:54PM

  Re: Ok...

Ramsdude219April 07, 2018 02:01PM

  Re: I agree with ZN...

zn351April 07, 2018 02:49PM

  I think it offers excellent perspective.

Saguaro222April 07, 2018 11:06AM

  Re: I think it offers excellent perspective.

zn204April 07, 2018 11:52AM

  Well, then you must have missed a couple of days here right after the trade, lol.

Saguaro276April 07, 2018 11:56AM

  Re: Well, then you must have missed a couple of days here right after the trade, lol.

zn230April 07, 2018 12:00PM

  Whoops, I meant to just reply an agreement. Fixed.

Saguaro226April 07, 2018 12:03PM

  I agree that most would agree....

SunTzu_vs_Camus264April 08, 2018 05:43AM

  If you are looking at the trade in the context of...

jemach231April 07, 2018 01:47PM

  Re: If you are looking at the trade in the context of...

Rampage2K-290April 07, 2018 01:55PM

  I'll give you Chandler...

jemach213April 07, 2018 02:12PM

  Re: How about

hammer218April 07, 2018 02:25PM

  Yes, I think it's true, we need more resolution. Edited.

Saguaro244April 07, 2018 02:44PM

  Re: Yes, I think it's true, we need more resolution.

zn229April 07, 2018 02:57PM

  Sorry to say, but...

NewMexicoRam233April 07, 2018 06:08AM

  The Cooks trade is reasonable only if you're making a SB run

max270April 07, 2018 04:58AM

  Re: The Cooks trade is reasonable only if you're making a SB run

Ramsdude237April 07, 2018 05:04AM

  Re: The Cooks trade is reasonable only if you're making a SB run

max380April 07, 2018 05:37AM

  Then why did McCay try to resign Watkins?

jemach216April 07, 2018 12:20PM

  Re: Did the Rams make an offer?

hammer555April 07, 2018 01:02PM

  Re: Did the Rams make an offer?

Ramsdude320April 07, 2018 01:44PM

  I think there was enough talk...

jemach356April 07, 2018 01:57PM

  Re: I think there was enough talk...

Ramsdude211April 07, 2018 02:07PM

  Not to nit pick...

jemach174April 08, 2018 05:19AM

  Re: Not to nit pick...

Ramsdude188April 08, 2018 05:28AM

  I cannot speak for last year...

jemach197April 08, 2018 05:35AM

  Re: I cannot speak for last year...

Ramsdude205April 08, 2018 05:39AM

  I would be thrilled if it happens this way...

jemach204April 08, 2018 08:13AM

  Re: Plenty of reports of an offer

dzrams561April 07, 2018 02:56PM

  Re: The Cooks trade is reasonable only if you're making a SB run

Steve231April 07, 2018 05:53AM

  Watkins is sunk cost

Rams_81382April 07, 2018 02:05PM

  So 15 out of 15

Rams_81426April 07, 2018 05:45AM

  Re: Perspective on Cooks Trade - History of #23 Pick

Ramboni276April 07, 2018 04:33PM