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Found this post on another board from a guy who found it on another board lol. I thought it was interesting and worth sharing. I take no credit or blame...
I don't think just looking at 23 covers it.
Different teams rank different players differently. There's no rigid slotting of players nor could there ever be such a thing.
So if you want to see what was done with pick 23, you have to ask, who else was available at that pick. If you do the first round that's picks 23-31. If you want to be genuinely realistic I would go 10 picks into the 2nd round too.
So looking at just 2012 for example, Using the criteria I just described, who was available at 23 in 2012? It's not just Rieff. It also includes (to be selective) guys like DeCastro, Hightower, Zeitler, Harrison Smith, Derek Wolfe, Mitchell Schwartz, and Cordy Glenn.
As in--a good drafting team can get a good player at 23. There's more than just one guy, and no one is mysteriously somehow slotted to be pick 23.
I defend the Cooks trade, but this is not a good approach to that. I am not going to defend it by acting as if there were always only going to be one guy slotted for pick 23 every year.
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lol...like I said, I take no credit or blame.
Just intended to show who "WAS" picked at 23 not who "could've" been picked. I think you are reading too much into it zn. After all Tom Brady was picked in rd 6. How far back do you want to go? For me, the point I took from this post was that pick 23 has been a "crap shoot" just as any other pick would be.
There were and will be better and worse players picked at 23. No doubt. But "most" teams picking at 23 were good teams (taht's why "most" were picking that low) so I assume they had to know a little about what they were doing.
But who WAS picked at 23 is not real information.
If we did all the drafts over again and put a different team at 23 each year, they most likely would take someone different.
So I am just saying that doing it as "pick 23 through the years" tells us basically nothing.
We know the Rams could have picked someone good at 23 this year. That's not how to defend the Cooks trade.
So you say it offers perspective, and I am counter-arguing that no it doesn't offer any perspective. Just assume the Rams would have made a good pick at 23 and that trading for Cooks was a calculated choice that accounts for that. In effect they traded another, good, different player for Cooks.
Who btw was picked 20th in 2014.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda is NOT the point zn. That list just shows who WAS picked and that IS real info. It is FACT not a "guess" as to who "coulda" been picked. So, it does tell us something but I know you will not budge on your opinion and that is fine.
We don't disagree that good players "coulda" been picked there but I just can't be sure the Rams (or anyone else) would have chosen a "good" player. There is NO guarantee of that happening. The draft at ANY spot is a crapshoot even if you pick #1 let alone #23.
It's all good zn. Maybe we will agree in a different thread.
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“Well, the color is good, I like the metallic blue,” Youngblood recently said while laughing, via NFL Journal. “The horn is terrible. It looks like a ‘C.’ When I first saw it on the logo I honestly thought it was a Charger logo.
“Now when I see it on the helmet, it just isn’t a ram horn. There is no distinct curl like a mature ram horn. I don’t know how the Rams could get that wrong. That is your symbol and it has been for what? Seventy years or more? Longer than I have been alive? It’s just not us, it’s not the Rams.”---Mr. Ram Jack Youngblood
