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Re: stats comparison

May 18, 2024 02:23PM
oh i’d argue the Lions caught up and passed the Rams in terms of talent and it’s the Rams now catching up.

Goff’s year last year had everything to do with his weapons around him. 2 1k rushers, all pro WR, all pro TE, and me of the best play callers in the NFL who did exactly for him what McVay did in 2017 and 2018.

Goff is awesome when everything is awesome around him. The issue for him has always been when things aren’t great. When he doesn’t have a run game and thus the play action that he thrives off of. The announcers say it constantly that the Lions aren’t a drop back and pass team. That is a weakness for them. their passing game is built around their ability to run and play action. And that was true when he had Gurley in LA too.

Is he good enough to win them a SB? Well I guess we will find out but my hunch is they will also need a great defense, and unlike Stafford in the 2021 season he cannot play behind an average oline or worst and elevate it to win a championship.

Stafford led a game winning drive to win the SB with no run game and down to only Cooper Kupp. Could Goff have done that? Does Goff throw that no like pass to Kupp on 3rd down getting the ball deep into the Bengals territory?

the two QB are not the same regardless of the stats

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I see that statistically they appear to be even but Stafford has played 8 or 9 fewer games due to injury (2022 and 2023) and missing the SF game last year

Stafford appears to be even with Goff but has played fewer games… If we projected his stats out over those missed games it’s not really close at all is it?

Goff
12,258 yds
66.5% com
78 tds
27 int
96.2 rating

Stafford
10,938 yds
65.9% com
75 tds
36 int
94.3 rating

I think the one thing I would add in fairness is that Goff put up better stats with a rookie OC and an offense that was by far inferior to the RAMS (although they are catching up). That said, I agree with those that said this was a win/win for everyone. I also learned that it is absolutely important that the H/C and or O/C and the QB are a fit for one another. Clearly, Goff and McVay did not fit...I don't know what it was but it was never going to work (and we can disagree on this but I put that on McVay). It is also interesting to note that when Goff first went to Detroit they had an O/C (and don't know what his name is) that was also a bad fit and Goff was terrible for like the first 7 games until they fired this guy. That's when rookie O/C Ben Johnson took over, said he relied heavily on Goff, and even with the worst offensive personnel in the NFL I believe Goff was the #1 rated QB the last 9 games of the season. I don't know how you determine fit between player and coach but it is apparently very important (I even remember things with Rodgers weren't great when LaFleur first went to GB but they got it worked out).
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  Rams News: Dan Patrick Determines Winner of Matthew Stafford-Jared Goff Trade 3 Years Later

BerendsenRam988May 17, 2024 10:40AM

  Re: Rams News: Dan Patrick Determines Winner of Matthew Stafford-Jared Goff Trade 3 Years Later

gatoramos190May 17, 2024 10:43AM

  Snore.... Wake me up when the Lions win a Super Bowl (nm).

Killrazor180May 17, 2024 11:33PM

  Re: Rams News: Dan Patrick Determines Winner of Matthew Stafford-Jared Goff Trade 3 Years Later

Old Goat223May 17, 2024 10:47AM

  Stupid

waterfield276May 17, 2024 12:28PM

  Re: Stupid

Rams43213May 17, 2024 12:41PM

  Yep with Dotson was a Huge Country Mile !

BerendsenRam199May 17, 2024 07:22PM

  Re: Stupid

Classicalwit154May 19, 2024 05:31PM

  Win-win’s are always best trades…

Rams43158May 17, 2024 12:39PM

  Re: Rams News: Dan Patrick Determines Winner of Matthew Stafford-Jared Goff Trade 3 Years Later

kw13161May 17, 2024 08:15PM

  Re: Rams News: Dan Patrick Determines Winner of Matthew Stafford-Jared Goff Trade 3 Years Later

BerendsenRam197May 17, 2024 10:57PM

  one thing about the stats comparison

Speed_Kills244May 18, 2024 02:46AM

  Re: stats comparison

ABQRam172May 18, 2024 05:56AM

  Re: stats comparison

Speed_Kills156May 18, 2024 02:23PM

  Re: stats comparison and the so-called intangibles

mtramfan165May 18, 2024 08:36PM

  That's why Stafford is worth the baggage be brings

JimYoungblood53158May 18, 2024 08:46PM

  well said and I might add

Speed_Kills147May 19, 2024 06:21AM

  hope it keeps up because I think he's got another SB run in him

JimYoungblood53238May 19, 2024 09:03AM

  Re: hope it keeps up because I think he's got another SB run in him

Speed_Kills227May 19, 2024 09:15AM

  Speed Kills - You are correct . . . If Goff was as good as Stafford, he would still be in LA.

since68133May 18, 2024 08:55PM

  Stafford could have an MVP season in 2024

Speed_Kills152May 19, 2024 06:25AM

  Re: one thing about the stats comparison Attachments

Saguaro138May 21, 2024 09:35AM

  I'm not sure I'm following

Speed_Kills169May 21, 2024 12:07PM

  Let's go for clarity.

Saguaro139May 21, 2024 02:59PM

  Re: ok this is a lot

Speed_Kills114May 21, 2024 03:57PM

  Re: Sorry for butting in...

RamsFanSince69122May 22, 2024 07:13AM

  I don't see the link, could you please repost? I liked to take a look.

Saguaro142May 22, 2024 08:13AM

  ok here goes

Speed_Kills111May 23, 2024 03:58AM

  Re: ok here goes

Rams43113May 23, 2024 05:31AM

  gracias sir nm

Speed_Kills115May 23, 2024 06:16AM

  Don't forget the historic OL injuries in 2022

RantoulRam92June 11, 2024 08:08AM

  IMO Goff is about the same as Kirk Cousins

RockRam189May 19, 2024 02:49AM

  Re: IMO Goff is about the same as Kirk Cousins

BerendsenRam129May 20, 2024 09:35AM

  can't say I disagree too much

Speed_Kills118May 21, 2024 05:08AM

  It's pretty simple....BOTH are good QBs. Goff has yet to win a Super Bowl but..

Ramgator151May 19, 2024 03:32AM

  Thanks to Dan on this one, next....

roman18185May 19, 2024 06:44AM

  This board sure spends a lot of time...

Saguaro218May 19, 2024 03:38PM

  Personal identification

waterfield175May 19, 2024 05:41PM

  Re: Personal identification

Classicalwit170May 19, 2024 08:18PM

  Is that what it is?

Speed_Kills176May 20, 2024 04:02AM

  Re: Is that what it is?

waterfield171May 20, 2024 08:07AM

  Re: because

Speed_Kills167May 20, 2024 08:20AM

  Re: because

waterfield190May 21, 2024 10:50AM

  Oh you've seen plenty like it

Speed_Kills208May 20, 2024 03:57AM

  What? Not how I remember it. no.

Saguaro201May 20, 2024 05:23PM

  hmmm ok

Speed_Kills117May 21, 2024 05:05AM

  Re: This board sure spends a lot of time...it's crazy

BumRap164May 20, 2024 10:51AM

  Re: This board sure spends a lot of time...it's crazy

Speed_Kills192May 20, 2024 12:24PM

  Stafford and Kupp....

JamesJM167May 20, 2024 07:43PM

  Re: Stafford and Kupp....

21Dog131May 21, 2024 04:51AM

  it was glorious!

Speed_Kills141May 21, 2024 05:02AM

  Re: it was glorious!

oldschoolramfan109May 21, 2024 05:56AM

  I will never forget trying to simply shout "COOOOP"! But I was freezing and...

Ramgator131May 21, 2024 07:10AM

  And HOLY COW!! How close was the kick being block and just HOW offsides was Tampa???

Ramgator133May 21, 2024 07:17AM

  It was close like Lombardi said Football is a game of inches !

BerendsenRam140May 21, 2024 03:20PM

  One of my other Lombardi Quotes I like if you cant gain a yd yoou dont deserve to be the Champion !

BerendsenRam161May 22, 2024 05:50PM

  This Isn't Hyperbole

Classicalwit122May 21, 2024 02:14PM

  That is a forgotten factor.

Ramgator134May 21, 2024 02:50PM

  Re: I think Stafford is the most underrated QB in the NFL.

oldschoolramfan165May 22, 2024 05:33AM

  Stafford is a brainiac

Speed_Kills136May 22, 2024 07:35AM

  He is Brother its Funny it really is

BerendsenRam98June 10, 2024 10:25PM

  " I know who you are"

waterfield134May 26, 2024 08:09PM

  Re: This board sure spends a lot of time...it's crazy

ABQRam253May 23, 2024 06:43AM

  Re: This board sure spends a lot of time...it's crazy

Speed_Kills174May 23, 2024 07:10AM

  Re: This board sure spends a lot of time...it's crazy

Classicalwit116May 27, 2024 06:05PM

  Re: Rams News: Dan Patrick Determines Winner of Matthew Stafford-Jared Goff Trade 3 Years Later

Shecky156May 22, 2024 07:53AM

  Dan struggled to determine the winner between these two...

DaJudge198May 23, 2024 07:19AM

  Thats Funny Brother lol! ...

BerendsenRam113June 10, 2024 06:40PM

  Winner ?

waterfield129June 10, 2024 03:25PM

  Can we move on from this thread??

Shecky91June 11, 2024 03:07AM