February 04, 2023 11:24AM
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JimYoungblood53
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JamesJM
(especially this last season)

Okay, this last season Rams play softest and Chiefs 2nd "hardest"

Chiefs had a time of possession of 29:56
Rams had time of possession of 29:39

I don't know what it means. We were awful and they are in Super Bowl.
The play up, we play back.

17 seconds per game difference . . . a play a game? a play every 2 games?

I don't know.

It means that stats like TOP and YPG don't mean squat to some coaches.
I keep hearing this alot from Offensive Minded HCs.
Ones I have talked too seem to fall into 2 different camps. (It's more than 2, but I am over-simplifying for easier understanding).

Camp 1: My offense will score TDs. # Possessions and # TDs matter. High TD per possession rate. Defense just needs to limit big plays and not give up TDs. Offense will score and create enough of a gap that in the second half, the other team's offense will press and be more 1 dimensional. Making it easier for the defense to get stops and turnovers. Which then gives possession to the offense to score more TDs.

Coaches here, I find, tend to be perfectionists and optimists. They believe that any offense, when executed correctly, is unstoppable. And they project that to their opponents as well. I'd argue they discount the impact of human error more. McVay would be here. I think if you look in the SoCal College area, Chip Kelly would be here.

Camp 2: Starts the same.. my offense will score TDs, High TD per possession rates. But play defense aggressively. Jump routes, heavy blitz packages, more big plays given up. Offense can equalize if defense gives up a big play. Both Camp 1 and Camp 2 are relying on a few defensive stops to give the offense a chance of separation. Not, going to stop every possession.

Coaches here I find tend to be highly thorough, but not always seeking to be perfectionists. They are more cynical and arguably "more realists" as they believe more in human error messing things up. This is where Andy Reid would arguably fit in... and then maybe Lincoln Riley if you are looking at SoCal colleges.

Neither is right or wrong.. the main commonalities are that they believe their offense can score and they just need the defense to make a few stops (not a stop every possession). How they achieve that is just different.
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  Here are the facts Attachments

JimYoungblood531078February 02, 2023 06:26AM

  Re: Here are the facts

joram193February 02, 2023 06:41AM

  A lot of truth in what you say

JimYoungblood53172February 02, 2023 06:52AM

  Re: A lot of truth in what you say

joram134February 02, 2023 07:51AM

  Re: IMHO......There's times in a game when you can take a "chance" on defense.

oldschoolramfan78February 04, 2023 07:11AM

  Sure, we'd all like to see that. Attachments

JimYoungblood53184February 04, 2023 07:49AM

  Where would you find this stat?

JamesJM87February 04, 2023 08:24AM

  I posted about this a while ago James

Ramsdude144February 04, 2023 08:35AM

  Time of possesion? Attachments

JimYoungblood53109February 04, 2023 10:27AM

  Okay, now, just think about this and tell me what you think

JimYoungblood53165February 04, 2023 10:59AM

  Re: Okay, now, just think about this and tell me what you think

h2omelonhead89February 04, 2023 11:24AM

  I don't think TOP, at least the way it's kept....

JamesJM142February 04, 2023 12:12PM

  I think what you may be wanting is number of plays faced

JimYoungblood53171February 04, 2023 12:24PM

  My preference . . .

JimYoungblood5381February 04, 2023 08:19AM

  why not bring some new blood in?

joram199February 05, 2023 03:13PM

  Stats are useful up to a point…

Rams43146February 02, 2023 06:48AM

  I never post stats out of context

JimYoungblood53150February 02, 2023 07:30AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

Rams43135February 02, 2023 08:46AM

  And THAT is out of context and meaningless

JimYoungblood53125February 02, 2023 10:31AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

h2omelonhead99February 02, 2023 10:36AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

Rams43138February 02, 2023 11:18AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

h2omelonhead92February 02, 2023 11:25AM

  Re: I never post stats out of context

Rams4396February 02, 2023 03:09PM

  My point is moot

JimYoungblood53105February 02, 2023 11:27AM

  Re: My point is moot

h2omelonhead108February 02, 2023 12:06PM

  Have watched Philly a lot

JimYoungblood5398February 02, 2023 12:20PM

  Re: Have watched Philly a lot

h2omelonhead118February 02, 2023 12:31PM

  No, you got me there

JimYoungblood53265February 02, 2023 12:38PM

  Re: No, you got me there

h2omelonhead152February 02, 2023 01:26PM

  KC almost didn't beat Cincy

NewMexicoRam172February 02, 2023 01:47PM

  Re: KC almost didn't beat Cincy

h2omelonhead48February 06, 2023 09:14AM

  A lot of good work and research but....

Ramgator193February 02, 2023 06:56AM

  Well, all of us would.

JimYoungblood53233February 02, 2023 06:59AM

  Thanks for doing the research

NewMexicoRam170February 02, 2023 08:29AM

  Re: Thanks for doing the research

Rams43106February 02, 2023 08:48AM

  Agree with both of you!

Ramsdude157February 02, 2023 09:02AM

  Wow, the sad attempt at a catch phrase are really getting old

promomasterj106February 02, 2023 09:09AM

  Lol...you sure told me!!!

Ramsdude109February 02, 2023 09:19AM

  Paralysis by overanalysis

merlin225February 02, 2023 08:44AM

  Re: Paralysis by overanalysis

Rams43213February 02, 2023 08:49AM

  Again, agree with BOTH pf you. Glad you spoke up merlin!

Ramsdude114February 02, 2023 09:12AM

  Didn't see this until now

JimYoungblood5378February 04, 2023 11:57AM

  Re: Didn't see this until now

merlin191February 04, 2023 01:49PM

  Agree with all that merlin! Well said!

Ramsdude71February 04, 2023 02:02PM

  Re: Agree with all that merlin! Well said!

merlin183February 05, 2023 01:29PM

  It is a wait and see game Attachments

JimYoungblood53144February 04, 2023 02:12PM

  How's this for context...the offense

promomasterj133February 02, 2023 09:06AM

  Really JY53?

3030117February 02, 2023 10:41AM

  Easy replies. Low hanging fruit, really

JimYoungblood5396February 02, 2023 11:06AM

  Also, and I could be wrong on this---looked it up

JimYoungblood53191February 02, 2023 11:38AM

  Re: Really JY53?

Rams43172February 02, 2023 11:21AM

  Out of context stats

JimYoungblood53170February 02, 2023 11:14AM

  Re: Out of context stats

Ramstien111February 02, 2023 11:43AM

  I think we all like a Fisher-type defense. I like a Saleh/Ryans

JimYoungblood5383February 02, 2023 11:52AM

  Re: Here are the facts

Old Goat130February 02, 2023 12:33PM

  Re: Here are the facts

Rams43273February 02, 2023 03:36PM

  The difference is your take is fair and reasonable

JimYoungblood53201February 02, 2023 04:03PM

  Re: The difference is your take is fair and reasonable unless you continue to disagree with me!

Ramsdude125February 03, 2023 05:04AM

  Re: The difference is your take is fair and reasonable unless you continue to disagree with me!

Rams43128February 03, 2023 06:23AM

  Re: The difference is your take is fair and reasonable unless you continue to disagree with me! Attachments

JimYoungblood53242February 03, 2023 10:16AM

  This is only for info Attachments

JimYoungblood5394February 03, 2023 02:41PM

  Come 53, that

Stafford9150February 03, 2023 04:01PM

  Come 53, that is like saying the Chinese Spy Balloon

Stafford9227February 03, 2023 04:01PM

  Why was my comment removed?

Ram4life197February 03, 2023 06:10PM

  I always appreciate you knowledge and take on things

David Deacon184February 04, 2023 04:38AM

  Thanks

JimYoungblood53145February 04, 2023 01:06PM

  Re: Thanks

Ramsdude86February 04, 2023 01:26PM

  Yep Attachments

JimYoungblood53189February 04, 2023 01:51PM