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Ramstien
53, I have to give you credit for your knowledge when it comes to the facts. I have always disliked the prevent defense because it is as painful as getting pecked to death by chickens. The way I see it McVay's inability to run his offense the way he desires has been more of a factor in the Rams losing then Morris' soft zone defense.
Fisher--4 man type. When Rams got Spags I liked it. He came from Giants--they had great defense he was the hot coach like DeMeco Ryans was. We saw what happened as head coach. So he's fired after 2011 and goes to 2012--and the players sounded like some fans here---
So, Spags had that aggressive style, more like people want here--but the point is those can fail, too.
There is no secret sauce that I am aware of. All I want to convey is that just because we don't like
it does not mean it is a failure.
Some go beyond not liking it and exaggerate trying to prove it is bad when it is not. That's the clash.
If they want to talk philosophy, fine. I vote for the guy that the Saints just fired to come in if Morris goes to Indy
Start with a Carroll based scheme - like 49ers/Jets run
What happens
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Pro Football Talk[
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One Saints player isn’t on board with Steve Spagnuolo
Posted by Josh Alper on January 2, 2013, 9:35 AM EST
The Saints defense was a mess all season, continuing a trend that started in 2011 and showing very little improvement over the course of Steve Spagnuolo’s first season as coordinator.
There’s been pretty widespread support in New Orleans for Spagnuolo in the wake of the end of the season, but Larry Holder of the New Orleans Times-Picayune spoke to one member of the Saints defense who was less enamored with the work Spagnuolo did this year.
We don’t know the identity of the player, but he gave a “resounding” yes when asked if Spagnuolo should be relieved of his duties.“To give up what we gave up can’t be all talent. Look at where his units (have) been ranked before. I think one top 10? Players have no say in anything,” the player said. “It was (a) complete opposite from before where it was a simple D that players had lot of control and say. We couldn’t suggest (expletive)…Nothing ever changed. It was his way only.
Don’t even get me started on lack (of) ability to adjust during games. Bad, bad, bad.”The
Saints ranked last in total defense and were at or near the bottom in most metrics over the course of the season. The anonymous player went on to say that the problems went beyond on-field results with a coach who made it hard to put on a “supportive, everything’s-going-to-be-OK face.”
Trust me all the guys were being politically correct this season when answering questions. It’s bad,” the player said. “He does have that good-guy persona, but he is a control freak and treats people like crap. (Spagnuolo has) no patience and zero personality. (He) has a way of pissing players and our defensive coaches off with how he says and does things. (I) think it’s even harder after having (former defensive coordinator) Gregg (Williams), who guys enjoyed.”
Spagnuolo doesn’t appear to be in danger of being fired at this point, although that’s certainly a scathing review of his work. The Saints had plenty of obstacles to overcome heading into the season, but the defense was bad enough that the season might have gone in a pretty similar direction without all the chaos related to the bounty suspensions. Spagnuolo will have to make serious improvements in Year Two if he’s going to make it to a third year.
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